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Add "Close to tray" behavior option, [No]
post Apr 15 2012, 11:38
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Previous on "close to tray" series:
2006 - http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=44665
2008-2011 - http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=86892
2012 - http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=94142

NB. I'm aware of getting this topic be closed, so I'll try to explain position with arguments, not just "pleeeeiizzz add this option!!11"

Why I don't like "Minimize" button to minimize some apps:
- when foobar is fullscreened, it's much more easier to position on [X] button, not on [_], so I'm waisting time moving pointer around that corner
- I'm used with apps like uTorrent and amaroK, they support Close to tray function on default

Why I'm proposing this option:
- I want foobar to be like "music service" (mocp, mpd on linux), not an application. So closing the "frontend" *MUST NOT* stop the music. Option "Close to tray" is the simplest way to achieve service-like behavior
- one more: foobar is started with system and ended with system down. Music may be paused, but why closing app?
- one more: foobar is low on resources, so it's quite normal to have it started all the time
- I'm proposing an OPTION, not default

Why developers have to add this option:
- there is a bunch of guys, who also like such behavior, and there are cons for it. Why ignore? Make this people happy! This is what makes devs happy - when users are happy.
- standarts. Standarts are good, but two problems:
-- standarts are not constant on time, just on period of time
-- Close on tray behavior is quite standart, when interpreting foobar as "service" and foobar window as "frontend"

Why do I post this. A friend of mine asked me to recommend good player for Windows (he is Linux user). I recommended foobar2000, no doubts. But then he discovered it closes on [X] button: "It's quite like amarok, but how to make it not close on [X]?" - "No ways" - "It's a pity, I'll search myself for alternatives". (he found after some amarok-styled player, which didn't close on close)

That was critical -1 for foobar. I'm not begging on add this functionality, but begging on turning the rational part of mind on - "people need an option, people have arguments, arguments are real - why not adding?".

Peace all!
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post Apr 15 2012, 11:47
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>>> "close" is close, "minimize" is minimize - it's really that simple!
don't generalize. read more carefully on "service" part of message.
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post Apr 15 2012, 12:20
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QUOTE (danbst @ Apr 15 2012, 12:47) *
>>> "close" is close, "minimize" is minimize - it's really that simple!
don't generalize. read more carefully on "service" part of message.
foobar2000 isn't a service, and as a matter of fact your generalization that services need to show up in the Notification Area is wrong, not all services show up in there. The purpose of the Notification Area is to show status updates and notifications about running programs, generally not as an alternative taskbar to store minimized applications. To quote the recommendations on MSDN:
The notification area provides notifications and status. Well-designed programs use the notification area appropriately, without being annoying or distracting.

Also take a look at the section titled "Minimized single-instance application", it states that applications may minimize to the Notification Area if certain conditions apply (which foobar2000 already allows), and even that behaviour is strongly discouraged for Win7 and later. MSDN also expressively states:
Use the Minimize button on the application's title bar, not the Close button.

Also, it may be even faster to hit Alt+Space + n (blame MS for not providing a better shortcut) to minimize foobar2000, than hitting the X in the corner.

Personally I loathe all programs who don't close upon hitting the X in the corner, it defies common Windows application rules and the principle of least surprises. It's not at all a standard way. I don't know how adding that feature is beneficial to the usability and user-friendliness of foobar2000, and more options means also more necessary user support due to misconfigurations or misconceptions.

Last but not least, similar discussions (you have linked yourself) have been closed with a WONTFIX answer before, expect the same here, or just straight binning.

This post has been edited by Kohlrabi: Apr 15 2012, 12:23

It's only audiophile if it's inconvenient.
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