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post May 4 2003, 20:11
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After reading the thread found here [ http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....t=7953&hl=vinyl ] I was blown away by the recording quality of the sandra.mpc sample. How do you get vinyl to sound so dust free and rich? All the vinyl that I have recorded has at least some dust crackling in the background, and some recordings sound extremely harsh (especially in the vocals - almost like clipping except there is no clipping going on.....) Do you use digital correction? Filtering? I use the following equipment -

Marantz TT1060 Turntable w/ unknown cartridge/needle (the cartridge/needle are replacements, less than 6 months old - I have no idea what brand / model they are, but they seem to be of decent quality.)

Marantz PM325 Receiver

SB-Live soundcard fed from phono -> receiver -> line-in (This is not the weak link I am concerned over - I know it has crappy quality recording, but I am worried about the record playback quality itself . I have also tried phono -> line-in directly and was not impressed with the quality at all.)

The cartridge seems to have good frequency response and be of decent quality, but I can not get rid of dust no matter what I try - I have a diskwasher and have tried a 1:5 alcohol/water solution, but the dust persists. Any tips?
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post May 7 2003, 05:49
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The tone settings on the ampli should not affect the tape output that you must have used to record the records.

Now, don't kill me, but those samples were taken from the headphone output ph34r.gif . At the time, I liked being able to tune the EQ using the headphone out. So, yes, the EQ did affect the sound - I'm sure of it, as I tuned the EQ to how I liked the sound before I recorded the files tongue.gif . I am using the tape outputs as I type this to record "Peter Tosh - Equal Rights." Until I get a carbon fiber brush, there will still be a bit of dust, but I will upload another sample of "unequalized" sound when I get a chance, not that it really matters, but you can give a real evaluation of the sound if you feel inclined. Sorry for the confusion.

Regardless of EQ being used, the "good" sample sounds pretty good. It's a bit bright and thin sounding, but decent. Since you don't know what cartridge you have how was the tracking force set?

As for the hum issue, it is a known problem with some high-output MM cartridges. As the cartridge moves closer to the motor assembly it picks up the 60/50Hz electrical hum. Typically there is no fix for this other than to get a cartridge that has been tested and is known to reject the signal or somehow shield the motor assembly.

Regarding wet playback and other things, here is a page that you may find interesting: (I guess the site's now down, so it's Google Archived only)

Thanks for the info and feedback. That web page is a great resource. I guess wet playback is a poor idea after all sad.gif . Very interesting about the hum issue. Oh well... itís only truly noticeable in the track gaps or silent parts of songs, as in the dust.mpc sample. And it only affects the last track or so.

Edit: The tracking force was set using my best guesstimate. Not truely heavy, but not feather light either. Unless I am truely board one night, it will stay set like this B) .

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- ViPER1313   Vinyl Care & Dust Removal   May 4 2003, 20:11
- - Pio2001   QUOTE Do you do digital correction? Filtering? No...   May 4 2003, 23:31
- - vraxoin   The brushes from the Discwasher kits are designed ...   May 5 2003, 21:47
- - ViPER1313   Thanks for the advice! I think I need to buy a...   May 6 2003, 01:40
- - Continuum   What do you think about playing wet? I recall to h...   May 6 2003, 06:56
- - Pio2001   Good.mpc sounds technically perfect, though I don...   May 6 2003, 14:21
- - 2Bdecided   1 thing to add: dust.mpc has a loud LF tone/noise ...   May 6 2003, 15:24
- - Lev   QUOTE What do you think about playing wet? I recal...   May 6 2003, 15:30
- - ViPER1313   By: Pio2001 (Posted on May 6 2003 - 09:21 AM) QUOT...   May 6 2003, 16:40
- - vraxoin   Regardless of EQ being used, the "good" ...   May 6 2003, 18:34
- - Pio2001   QUOTE Bass was probably set to +0db, midrange was ...   May 6 2003, 19:29
- - ViPER1313   QUOTE The tone settings on the ampli should not af...   May 7 2003, 05:49
- - boojum   QUOTE (Continuum @ May 5 2003 - 09:56 PM)What...   May 7 2003, 06:03
- - ViPER1313   Here is a sample using the PM325's tape output...   May 7 2003, 06:51
- - 2Bdecided   That one sounds fine to me. I'd just do some g...   May 7 2003, 11:32
- - Continuum   QUOTE (vraxoin @ May 6 2003 - 07:34 PM)Regard...   May 7 2003, 18:48
- - Continuum   QUOTE (boojum @ May 7 2003 - 07:03 AM)Soon yo...   May 7 2003, 18:54
- - nmpaulcp   I start with products from www.lastfactory.com (so...   May 20 2003, 01:05
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