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--aps -b192 with 128/160 frames?, How did this happen?
post Oct 7 2003, 23:00
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I came across a sample file that I'm having trouble figuring out how it was encoded. According to the LAME tag, it's encoded with LAME v3.92 and while v3.92 doesn't actually store the preset used, according to the rest of the info in the LAME tag it appears to be encoded using --alt-preset standard (vbr_quality = 78; vbr_method = vbr-old / vbr-rh; noise_shaping = 2; stereo_mode = joint; ath_type = 4; lowpass = 19000). The problem is that the LAME tag also says that a minimum bitrate of 192kbps was specified, and yet the actual bitrates are distributed like this (which looks like normal --aps):
128 -> 4
160 -> 963
192 -> 2658
224 -> 817
256 -> 246
320 -> 65
I haven't been able to replicate how the LAME tag has minimum bitrate of 192 but 128 and 160 frames appear in the file. I've tried:
--alt-preset standard -b 192
--alt-preset 192
--abr 192

Any ideas anyone?

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post Oct 8 2003, 17:47
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This is not a bug, it is intended to work this way. If you specify any setting before the preset that the preset will itself set, then it will be changed by the preset. Similarly, if you specify a setting after the preset, it will alter the value set by the preset. However, the moral of the story really is that if you want the full value of the effort that was put into tuning the presets, don't mess with them, the chances of improving on them without very detailed knowledge are almost zero. wink.gif

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