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post Jul 4 2003, 20:27
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Here's a problem that has really been bugging me. I want to know how everyone else handles capitalization in their file tags and filenames. I have read the guide that cddb suggests, which is different than what musicbrainz.org wants, which is different than what freedb wants, which might all be different to what everyone else wants. I am trying to add this to a perl script that I use for all my encoding and I want to get it right this time!

Do you uppercase the first character in all the words? Do you leave certain words like 'a', 'an', 'the', 'of' lowercase? Any others you leave lowercase? I have looked at English rules for capitalization for song titles and it gets real confusing. For instance, prepositions that are less than five letters long (at, by, for, etc) or lower-case, but only when followed by a noun. How do you script the exeptions for that?

What if the song has the artist 'Featuring' another artist? Or 'With' another artist? Do you append that to the track name instead of the artist field? Do you use the abbreviation 'ft.', 'ft', 'Feat.', 'feat.', 'Feat', 'feat', or 'With', 'with'?

If the disc is part of a 2-disc set do you use (Disc 1) or (Disc 1 of 2) in the album field?

So far, I have been capitalizing all the words .. using 'ft' and appending it to the track title instead of the artist field.

Please let me know how you handle this! There must be some sort of standardization or something that most people go by. If not, there should be!

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post Oct 29 2003, 21:09
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I've begun to come across these issues lately and rather than start a new thread I figured I'd revive this one.

Issues at hand:

1. Do featured artists belong as part of the song title, artists name, or maybe under the comments field? How should it be formatted? Usually I have been putting this info in parenthises after the song title but what happens when this information gets ingredibly long or the song title includes parenthises such as -

Atlanta (Remix) (feat. P Diddy, Jermaine Dupri, XYZ Group & Etc.)


Atlanta (Remix feat. P Diddy, Jermaine Dupri, XYZ Group & Etc.)

it can get complicated and incredibly long on rare occasions (rap CDs are notorious for this). What about Compilations and Anthologys? Should the featured artist info go under the artist name or track name? My logic tells me that it should fall under the track name. Ideally there would be an Artist tag Heirarchy, but I guess that isn't feasable.

2. How to name bonus tracks? For now I've been putting an Asterisk before the track name, but it could just as easily be -

*Mumbo Jumbo


Mumbo Jumbo (Bonus Track)


Mumbo Jumbo [*]

3. What about hidden or untitled tracks? If a track is hidden after a long pause do you extract it seperately as another track even though technically it was originally part of another?

Take for instance the hidden track on Nirvana - Nevermind that starts something like 10 minutes after the last song is over. Or for instance the extra track on Creed - Human Clay that isn't in the liner notes etc.

4. How do you define what goes into what Genre? I suppose this is more of a personal thing, but how do you decide? What if something falls into more than one Genre? What if you only have one disc with a unique genre, do you create a new genre just for it? Ideally I suppose you could have one song belong to more than one genre or a main genre and a sub genre.

5. What about compilations? Do you define the original album and year to each track? An Individual Genre to each track?

6. For multi disc sets I pretty much have my own standard. I don't put the discnumber in the album field because like fileman said it is all the same album. I keep the original tracknumbers (so if disc 1 has 12 tracks song 5 on disc 2 is still track 5, not 17). I seperate the filenames so track 1 on disc 1 would be -

1-01. Intro

and track 1 on disc 2 would be -

2-01. Searchin'

Done this way I have one folder for multidisc sets with cue and logfiles for howerver many discs were ripped.

It seems iTunes will be my player of choice soon and it supports a discnumber tag.

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- jasnic02   Tags And Capitalization Question   Jul 4 2003, 20:27
- - Boredom801   QUOTE (jasnic02 @ Jul 4 2003, 07:27 PM)Here...   Jul 5 2003, 18:03
- - Canar   Probably the best way to do a lot of it is to use ...   Jul 5 2003, 19:22
- - Jebus   I don't use any of those special tags for disc...   Jul 5 2003, 20:12
- - ScorLibran   Here's what I've been doing so far, but my...   Jul 6 2003, 08:10
- - Omni   From my old college textbook (Yes! I still ke...   Jul 6 2003, 08:49
- - Canar   QUOTE (ScorLibran @ Jul 5 2003, 11:10 PM)As f...   Jul 6 2003, 08:49
- - ScorLibran   QUOTE (Canar @ Jul 6 2003, 03:49 AM)However, ...   Jul 6 2003, 13:12
- - MachineHead   I cap everything. Proper it is not, but everything...   Jul 6 2003, 13:45
- - BadHorsie   QUOTE (jasnic02 @ Jul 4 2003, 11:27 AM)Here...   Jul 6 2003, 14:00
- - getID3()   Throwing my tagging variant into the mix: Track t...   Jul 6 2003, 18:33
- - /\/ephaestous   Track titles: - All caps except for a, an, the, of...   Jul 6 2003, 19:42
- - Canar   What would be really nice is a hierarchical listin...   Jul 6 2003, 22:59
- - ScorLibran   Slightly off-topic... Speaking of tags and genres...   Jul 7 2003, 11:16
- - dewey1973   Here is what I do... 1. download info from freed...   Jul 7 2003, 18:37
- - CyberInferno   QUOTE (Omni @ Jul 5 2003, 11:49 PM)For instan...   Jul 7 2003, 18:45
- - jasnic02   Well, this has definitely been helpful for me. I ...   Jul 7 2003, 19:55
- - rpop   Sorry if I missed something or wrote something tha...   Aug 12 2003, 11:16
- - fileman   ... but then you have again to make a decision (is...   Aug 12 2003, 12:28
- - Sebastian Mares   I don't care about standards, so I always capi...   Aug 12 2003, 13:24
- - ScorLibran   Holy thread revival, Batman! This thread take...   Aug 12 2003, 13:40
- - bfourney   I've begun to come across these issues lately ...   Oct 29 2003, 21:09
- - CyberInferno   I believe the "standard" as far as featu...   Oct 29 2003, 23:16
- - sshd   English being my second language I have often wond...   Oct 29 2003, 23:42
- - Pio2001   I capitalize all words exept articles, conjunction...   Oct 30 2003, 00:10
- - sshd   QUOTE (Pio2001 @ Oct 30 2003, 12:10 AM)The pr...   Oct 30 2003, 06:03
- - ScorLibran   My personal methods, which have evolved somewhat f...   Oct 30 2003, 08:43
- - Go2Null   Another revival of this thread I have just st...   Dec 30 2003, 20:05

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