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SanDisk firmware update adds OGG, FLAC support to Clip and Fuze

You all FLAC fanatics will be happy of this news 
Finally you can get a FLAC and OGG-enabled player for few bucks (Clip 2Gb costs 30€, Fuze 2Gb costs 60€)
So you dont need more to buy Cowon or hack your gorgeus iPod. Dunno about Sandisk player quality (i own a great iPod mini) but they did a good move in my opinion

I copy and paste the news from: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-12519_7-10109128-49.html



Awhile back, SanDisk released some fairly major firmware for both the Sansa Clip and the Sansa Fuze. Well, technically, the update for each is a different piece of software, but most of the fixes and enhancements are similar, so I'm treating the two as one here.

I finally got around to installing the new firmware on the Clip and I have to say that it's definitely a worthwhile install (most firmware is). If you haven't done it already, make sure you do--I've included some basic steps for updating Sansa players below.

Perhaps the most exciting thing for audio format nerds is the addition of support for both Ogg Vorbis and FLAC file types. This added feature certainly gives the Sansas a leg up on the competition, as only a handful of other MP3 players offer such playback. (Cowon is a notable example.) In addition, the players now support the most advanced Audible AAX format (type 4), and they include enhanced control over audiobooks and podcasts.

For more information on features and bug fixes offered by the firmware, head to SanDisk's Web site to read all about Sansa Fuze Version 1.01.15 and Sansa Clip Version 1.01.29.

SanDisk firmware update adds OGG, FLAC support to Clip and Fuze

Reply #1 –
Just a bit of clarification.

Though may be reported recently in a mag...this is an update released a couple of months ago.

terry

SanDisk firmware update adds OGG, FLAC support to Clip and Fuze

Reply #2 –
Does it support gapless playback too?

SanDisk firmware update adds OGG, FLAC support to Clip and Fuze

Reply #3 –
Quote from: tpijag on
Just a bit of clarification.

Though may be reported recently in a mag...this is an update released a couple of months ago.

terry

Yes indeed and from what I've read on some forums ogg implementation still has some bugs but I'm sure the next firmware version will be rock solid.

A great step of SanDisk, now the rest of brands 

SanDisk firmware update adds OGG, FLAC support to Clip and Fuze

Reply #4 –
Quote from: tpijag on
Just a bit of clarification.

Though may be reported recently in a mag...this is an update released a couple of months ago.

terry


I didn't know it sorry, I read it yesterday and I thought It was interesting for u audionerds

SanDisk firmware update adds OGG, FLAC support to Clip and Fuze

Reply #5 –
Quote from: eldino on
I didn't know it sorry, I read it yesterday and I thought It was interesting for u audionerds

And well done as not much people know it yet 

SanDisk firmware update adds OGG, FLAC support to Clip and Fuze

Reply #6 –
Great news! Does anybody know wether it supports Replay Gain Tags & Gapless Playback?
Ogg Vorbis for music and speech [q-2.0 - q6.0]
FLAC for recordings to be edited
Speex for speech

SanDisk firmware update adds OGG, FLAC support to Clip and Fuze

Reply #7 –
Not yet.

Replay gain is studied for feasability by sansa firmware developers.
Gapless playback might be added in the future.

SanDisk firmware update adds OGG, FLAC support to Clip and Fuze

Reply #8 –
Quote from: Tom² on
Replay gain is studied for feasability by sansa firmware developers.
Gapless playback might be added in the future.


Source? Or are in developers team?
Ogg Vorbis for music and speech [q-2.0 - q6.0]
FLAC for recordings to be edited
Speex for speech

SanDisk firmware update adds OGG, FLAC support to Clip and Fuze

Reply #9 –
Quote from: de Mon on
Quote from: Tom² on

Replay gain is studied for feasability by sansa firmware developers.
Gapless playback might be added in the future.


Source? Or are in developers team?


We were told so by one of the developers when many of us on the official sansa forum asked for RG and gapless playback support.
http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board?boar...fuse&page=1

SanDisk firmware update adds OGG, FLAC support to Clip and Fuze

Reply #10 –
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I didn't know it sorry, I read it yesterday and I thought It was interesting for u audionerds


This is not new news. It was reported on several websites several months ago and was mentioned on here several times. I wouldn't consider it a feature unique to only audiophiles or nerds now. Vorbis and FLAC should be playable on most DAP's. Although we can't ever expect apple to support open-source codecs anytime in the near future.
budding I.T professional

SanDisk firmware update adds OGG, FLAC support to Clip and Fuze

Reply #11 –
I have bought this mp3/ogg/FLAC/wav/wma  media player and i can say ,without any doubt, that is over iRiver or other players i have seen that people mentioned here. (you should read the review below. All the good things are true... and the 'bad' is exaggerated ) [lucky me])

Sandisk Sansa Clip Review

Sandisk Sansa Clip Disassembled
http://www.anythingbutipod.com/archives/20...30-released.php
http://www.anythingbutipod.com/archives/20...ers-of-2008.php

The sound is pure at low volume and high as well. For example... many other players tend to make themselves "heard" while playing or even while they are in pause mode. You can notice this in a silent environment with the volume set to very low. My last player (packard bell pulse) did this while the information about the playing track was scrolled on the screen...

Personally ... i choose my "mp3" players considering two things: sound quality and cost. With the features present in this tiny player, the sound quality and the price set at... hm... 30 US $ (22 € [euro]) for the 1 GB version this was, logically, the best choice.

L.E.
Well... terry (who also uses a clip) what i've wrote is clearly subjective... if this is the problem... but i don't think anyone could clearly say what is the best player... or make a hierarchy. The problem is that thousands of media players co-exist on the market and they are (or some of them) permanently changing trough firmware updates. So... for me to say with facts that Sansa Clip is over a X player is very hard. But considering all the features introduced... hm... better said: all the things that you care may be present in this piece of hardware, powered by some updated software, and they might not be in other players that had success till now. So... if you find W feature and you like it... you will consider that that thing is better than other. (if W exists in both players... other factors will be taken into consideration)

Because i didn't wanted to sound purely subjective... i've posted, as you can see, those links with a review... a review written by a guy that "knows things"

SanDisk firmware update adds OGG, FLAC support to Clip and Fuze

Reply #13 –
I thought some people might be interested to know that the latest firmware update has added support for Replay Gain tags.

It seems quite nicely implemented, with configurable pre-gain and the ability to quickly switch between album and track gain.

I'm surprised that more portable deviced don't have this feature. Here's hoping that the next firmware update adds gapless playback too.

SanDisk firmware update adds OGG, FLAC support to Clip and Fuze

Reply #14 –
Well pleased that this feature has been added. Now, if they would only properly interpret FLAC files with embedded CUE sheets....
lossyWAV -q X -a 4 -s h -A --feedback 2 --limit 15848 --scale 0.5 | FLAC -5 -e -p -b 512 -P=4096 -S- (having set foobar to output 24-bit PCM; scaling by 0.5 gives the ANS headroom to work)

SanDisk firmware update adds OGG, FLAC support to Clip and Fuze

Reply #15 –
Does anyone knows if the OGG decoder is the normal one, the tremor or the low-precision tremor? I currently use a Kingston KPEX with such a low precision tremor I think, and I definitely don't like it
Music: sounds arranged such that they construct feelings.

SanDisk firmware update adds OGG, FLAC support to Clip and Fuze

Reply #16 –
The Vorbis decoder on Sansa's Clip doesn't suffer from electrical noise on low volume stuff (=tremor typical issue). It's a fine implementation (but I can't tell you which one).
It should be the same on any Fuze model.

SanDisk firmware update adds OGG, FLAC support to Clip and Fuze

Reply #17 –
Thanks for the swift response  I'll consider buying one then. Is there anything known from an implementation of Vorbis in the Sansa View firmware? I searched for it, but couldn't find it.
Music: sounds arranged such that they construct feelings.

SanDisk firmware update adds OGG, FLAC support to Clip and Fuze

Reply #18 –
You could ask on the Sansa forums.
lossyWAV -q X -a 4 -s h -A --feedback 2 --limit 15848 --scale 0.5 | FLAC -5 -e -p -b 512 -P=4096 -S- (having set foobar to output 24-bit PCM; scaling by 0.5 gives the ANS headroom to work)

SanDisk firmware update adds OGG, FLAC support to Clip and Fuze

Reply #19 –
I just found out the view still has serious problems with the firmware, so probably Vorbis won't ever make it into the View...
Music: sounds arranged such that they construct feelings.