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Sennheiser HD-580 closed alternative
kritip
post Mar 11 2013, 01:16
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Hey peeps,

I'm emigrating, so selling up most things, and looking at some travelling as well (hence no open headphones)

Now, don't get me wrong, I LOVE my HD-580's, but what would you recommend (ideally second hand as I don't want to spend money, rather make a bit)?

I want a closed setup, so I don't annoy people on the plane and on travel, and something maybe a bit more compact?

Something that can be driven from a cheap or low power mp3 player would be a bonus smile.gif

I'd stick with my Jays Q-jays earphones, but they get uncomfortable after a while and want some headphones instead. Just not open.
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post Mar 11 2013, 05:22
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If you like sennheiser, why not one of the hd 4xx or even the really inexpensive hd 201s that score pretty highly for inexpensive cans.
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post Mar 11 2013, 08:32
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QUOTE (kritip @ Mar 11 2013, 01:16) *
and something maybe a bit more compact?

You could look into DJ headphones, which often can be folded to be more compact.

QUOTE (Mach-X @ Mar 11 2013, 05:22) *
or even the really inexpensive hd 201s that score pretty highly for inexpensive cans.

I used the 201 for years and I couldn't use them for more than one hour because my ears started to hurt. Probably circumaural are more confortable, but these aren't really compact usually.


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post Mar 11 2013, 08:51
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QUOTE (kritip @ Mar 11 2013, 01:16) *
I'd stick with my Jays Q-jays earphones, but they get uncomfortable after a while and want some headphones instead. Just not open.

Already tried to change their eartips to third party more confortable ones?


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post Mar 11 2013, 13:29
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The hd600 is "newer" version of the hd580,
and the BRAINWAVZ HM5 was suggested at head-fi as a closed alternative to the the hd600.

I wouldn't use this kind of headphone on plane, nothing is better than iems in these conditions.
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post Mar 11 2013, 18:25
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QUOTE (kritip @ Mar 10 2013, 20:16) *
Hey peeps,

I'm emigrating, so selling up most things, and looking at some travelling as well (hence no open headphones)

Now, don't get me wrong, I LOVE my HD-580's, but what would you recommend (ideally second hand as I don't want to spend money, rather make a bit)?

I want a closed setup, so I don't annoy people on the plane and on travel, and something maybe a bit more compact?

Something that can be driven from a cheap or low power mp3 player would be a bonus smile.gif

I'd stick with my Jays Q-jays earphones, but they get uncomfortable after a while and want some headphones instead. Just not open.



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post Mar 11 2013, 21:45
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Cheers guys. I think I will look into tips for the q-jays again, and stick with the HD-580 (just get them shipped over once i've settled.

The other alternative, I'm getting some custom ear molds (motorbike ear plugs)....I've always fancied custom molded IEM's but have concerns the drivers they install won't be as good as what I'd like.

Anyone with custom molded....are they comfortable over long periods and do they sound decent?
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post Mar 11 2013, 21:47
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oh dear, maybe this is what I want!!

http://www.jays.se/q-jays-custom-molds
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post Mar 11 2013, 21:57
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I've got Etymotic ER4 with custom sleeves. Comfort is excellent. I try to be as frugal with audio purchases (Still rocking Emu 0404 PCI and Fiio E5) but I don't regret a penny with this one.
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post Mar 11 2013, 22:01
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great stuff smile.gif Did you get silicone or acrylic sleeves? I have heard silicone are better for comfort but acrylic are better for sound?
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post Mar 11 2013, 22:08
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QUOTE (kritip @ Mar 11 2013, 16:45) *
Cheers guys. I think I will look into tips for the q-jays again, and stick with the HD-580 (just get them shipped over once i've settled.

The other alternative, I'm getting some custom ear molds (motorbike ear plugs)....I've always fancied custom molded IEM's but have concerns the drivers they install won't be as good as what I'd like.

Anyone with custom molded....are they comfortable over long periods and do they sound decent?



Sound quality and comfort are the reason that custom molded IEMs exist.

BTW here is an interesting source of headphone and earphone technical reviews:

http://en.goldenears.net

Sorry about the name! ;-)

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post Mar 11 2013, 22:28
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Cheers for the link, looks interesting.

All sorted (hopefully) for now. I have bought some Comply T-100 foam tips, as the foam Q-Jays one's were very comfortable, but didn't last long. If these are as comfy, they will do for now. Looks like custom molds from the place I am getting my earplugs made are £75, so may be a good option in the longer term.

Thanks a lot for the ideas everyone smile.gif
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post Mar 11 2013, 22:56
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QUOTE (kritip @ Mar 10 2013, 19:16) *
I want a closed setup, so I don't annoy people on the plane and on travel, and something maybe a bit more compact?


If you're looking to wear in planes, noise canceling seems the way to go.
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post Mar 12 2013, 13:36
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QUOTE (DonP @ Mar 11 2013, 17:56) *
QUOTE (kritip @ Mar 10 2013, 19:16) *
I want a closed setup, so I don't annoy people on the plane and on travel, and something maybe a bit more compact?


If you're looking to wear in planes, noise canceling seems the way to go.



I find that IEMs are very effective for this kind of usage.
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post Mar 12 2013, 13:39
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QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Mar 12 2013, 13:36) *
I find that IEMs are very effective for this kind of usage.


As long as you use proper tips that provide you with a perfect seal (YMMV).


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post Mar 12 2013, 23:35
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good move on not getting rid of your 580s.

I just went through auditioning (by buying each used and reselling to recoup) a number of flagship headphones. In the end I kept the Senn HD800 and Beyer T1. BUT: my hd580s continue to sound fantastic, and in fact, when the uber revealing nature of the hd800 and T1 find too much fault with mediocre recordings or pressings, The HD580 is just forgiving enough to ALWAYS be enjoyable while delivering a level of performance that is not far off the refinement of the much more expensive headphones.

Never sell your HD580's!

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