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Please update opus-tools binaries at Rarewares
Dukers
post Dec 11 2012, 11:17
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Please update opus-tools with version 0.1.6/libopus 1.0.2. If possible backport flac input support added in commit 892fd929 just after 0.1.6.

http://rarewares.org/opus.php
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jensend
post Dec 13 2012, 06:11
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NullC isn't trying to tell people that they have no legal right to make their own builds from random and distribute them, he's trying to dissuade them from overpublicizing such builds, making too-strong of claims for them, etc.

While it's true that this could imaginably ruffle some feathers, I don't think his attempts at such persuasion have thus far harmed Opus's image in the slightest. The primary reasons I think such an approach is problematic are that it is ineffective and that it doesn't scale. If it were done in a heavy-handed way it could produce effects like what JAZ is talking about, but I have absolutely zero reason to think Xiph etc folks would take such an approach.

I'm sorry if portions of my initial post gave any other impression due to unfortunate phrasing, and I feel people have missed the point of what I was actually trying to say.

I still think that simple steps could be taken to better convince "I need it to just work" type users to stick with the official stable builds. I think simple steps could be taken to provide prospective testers with visible and trusted sources of test builds as well as basic information about testing (e.g. disclaimers, where to provide feedback and what kind of feedback is helpful). I think such steps would largely eliminate the frustrations NullC is facing. Third parties would continue to build random git snapshots, and some people would continue to choose to use those builds, but the danger that regular users or casual testers would end up using those builds without knowing what they're doing or based on misinformation would be greatly reduced.

Maybe having a page visible on the website with nightlies or cherry-picked snapshot builds or regularly-released alphas or whatever is repulsive to Opus devs' sense of "engineering production values" regardless of what kind of disclaimers, encouragement that regular users use the stable releases instead, and instructions for testers accompany the builds on that page. But if the only "approved" source for such builds is an unpublicized expectation that anyone who wants to test but doesn't have a proper build environment will beg for builds on IRC or the list, then people will instead continue to grab whatever random sources of binaries they can find.

I would again advocate a pinned thread, preferably in a new Opus subforum, for that purpose esp. if they'd rather not post that on the website. (Opus is now most of the traffic in "Other Lossy Codecs," and I'd hope HA admins would be receptive to giving it its own subforum.)
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- Dukers   Please update opus-tools binaries at Rarewares   Dec 11 2012, 11:17
- - Gainless   Opus-Tools 0.1.6? There's just 0.1.5 on the of...   Dec 11 2012, 12:29
|- - Nekit1234007   QUOTE (Gainless @ Dec 11 2012, 15:29) Opu...   Dec 11 2012, 12:30
- - Gainless   Would be good to have this as a package in the off...   Dec 11 2012, 12:36
- - john33   I'll try to get this done by the end of the we...   Dec 11 2012, 15:18
- - NullC   The FLAC support isn't released yet because it...   Dec 11 2012, 15:22
|- - jensend   QUOTE (NullC @ Dec 11 2012, 07:22) I...   Dec 11 2012, 18:52
|- - NullC   QUOTE (jensend @ Dec 11 2012, 10:52) But ...   Dec 11 2012, 19:31
|- - jensend   QUOTE (NullC @ Dec 11 2012, 11:31) I can ...   Dec 12 2012, 00:46
|- - saratoga   QUOTE (jensend @ Dec 11 2012, 19:46) QUOT...   Dec 12 2012, 01:41
- - Dukers   OK. No flac input for now. We can wait a couple of...   Dec 11 2012, 22:54
- - [JAZ]   @saratoga: Your advice might be true, but definite...   Dec 12 2012, 20:04
|- - saratoga   QUOTE ([JAZ] @ Dec 12 2012, 15:04...   Dec 12 2012, 20:26
|- - [JAZ]   QUOTE (saratoga @ Dec 12 2012, 20:26) Wha...   Dec 13 2012, 00:04
|- - DonP   QUOTE ([JAZ] @ Dec 12 2012, 18:04...   Dec 13 2012, 01:18
- - jensend   NullC isn't trying to tell people that they ha...   Dec 13 2012, 06:11
- - john33   Here is a build of Opus Tools 0.1.6. This is curre...   Dec 13 2012, 13:22
|- - Nekit1234007   john33, ahemů CODE.\opusenc -V opusenc opus-t...   Dec 13 2012, 13:35
|- - lvqcl   QUOTE (john33 @ Dec 13 2012, 16:22) In or...   Dec 13 2012, 16:10
|- - john33   QUOTE (lvqcl @ Dec 13 2012, 15:10) QUOTE ...   Dec 13 2012, 17:22
- - john33   Oops! Re-compiled and uploaded on same link wi...   Dec 13 2012, 15:05
|- - Nekit1234007   QUOTE (john33 @ Dec 13 2012, 18:05) Oops...   Dec 13 2012, 15:13
- - john33   I've just added an ICL12.1 Win32 SSE2 compile ...   Dec 13 2012, 18:29
- - Dukers   Thanks, john33.   Dec 13 2012, 23:52
- - Bostedclog   Please be gentle .But this latest opus release.D...   Dec 14 2012, 14:30


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