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Xrcr9709
post Nov 25 2012, 14:05
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Hello,

I have sond MiniDiscs that I would like to archive in .wav fies (or .flac, whatever).
My soundcard is Asus Xonar Essence SXT witch includ of TOSLINK input with a SPDIF adapter.
If I manage to get a MiniDisc with optical output ...

Basically, I just need to connect output to input and then hit record in some software ? (Audacity, Sound Forge) as I would do with any analog recording but the recording will be digital ?
Or does it work another way ?


Thank you for informations.
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Xrcr9709
post Nov 25 2012, 22:12
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What I'm not sure to understand:
- If the sound on the disc is ATRAC (which I wasn't aware of), if I record if analogically or numerically, both method will start with ATRAC conversion anyway ?

This:
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If you buy a portable Hi-MD minidisc recorder, you can use the USB connection to transfer the songs from your Minidiscs into Sonicstage (Sony's software). From Sonicstage you can export the songs as WAV. This process is so much quicker and free of SCMS hassles.


looks like what I've always dreamed of when I was frequently MDs.
I'll see ifI can find a functional Hi-MD with adaptor and software.
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post Nov 26 2012, 16:39
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QUOTE (Xrcr9709 @ Nov 25 2012, 22:12) *
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If you buy a portable Hi-MD minidisc recorder, you can use the USB connection to transfer the songs from your Minidiscs into Sonicstage (Sony's software). From Sonicstage you can export the songs as WAV. This process is so much quicker and free of SCMS hassles.

looks like what I've always dreamed of when I was frequently MDs.
I'll see ifI can find a functional Hi-MD with adaptor and software.

I'm not sure this works. Sonicstage was a DRM monster when I used to use minidiscs. You could only "import" those tracks you "exported" from the very same computer, making the whole process utterly useless for home recordings. If I remember correct, you couldn't even delete tracks on the (Sony) player, that where "exported" from a computer. But this may have changed with newer versions of the software. I suggest you find out before buying anything.
I used to import recorded minidiscs using a Yamaha MD deck and a Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS, connected via TOSLINK. It worked fairly well, except you don't get any track information, so you have to cut your tracks manually. I never had trouble with the copy protect bit, but I used only first generation recordings.

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post Nov 26 2012, 23:35
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QUOTE (Michaja @ Nov 26 2012, 17:39) *
I'm not sure this works. Sonicstage was a DRM monster when I used to use minidiscs. You could only "import" those tracks you "exported" from the very same computer, making the whole process utterly useless for home recordings.


I remember that, but I think the software was "Open MG Jukebox". I had bought one of the first MDs to announce this functionnaly. I immediately saw it was total bullshit from homemade records point of view. And I had noticed that they tended to remove ports here and there and the ergonomy was getting worse and worse for the sake of tortured designs. (In that time I was also still listening a little bit to the advice of the shop dealers who could tell you that you can get to the moon and make coffee or what ever your wanted with any technological device they had to sell. So I was a bit angry too.) So I went back and traded it for the previous model which was purely analogic.


Right now I have ordered this on eBay: http://www.sony.co.uk/support/en/product/MZ-NH700/updates
I see that it's download have some interesting promising items (at least based on their names):
- SonicStage CP (Version 4.3) Download Program.
Software update procedure , 15/07/2008
- WAV Conversion Tool for MZ-NH1 / NH900/ NHF800/ NH700 and NH600 (EU)
Software update procedure , 17/06/2007

So I hope it will work fine ! (I hope this "Software update procedure" will not be a new cause of disppointment about MDs)

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post Nov 29 2012, 12:10
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QUOTE (Xrcr9709 @ Nov 26 2012, 23:35) *
I remember that, but I think the software was "Open MG Jukebox". I had bought one of the first MDs to announce this functionnaly. I immediately saw it was total bullshit from homemade records point of view.
Yeah, that thing was awful!

I use SonicStage CP 4.3 from time to time (just to export to a MZ-N710) and finally looked into the manual. And there it says:
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The following tracks on a Net MD may not be able to be transferred back to My Library on your computer:
    Tracks transferred from another computer
    Tracks recorded using a device other than a computer (for example, an MD deck)

So much for awful, but under "Using a Hi-MD" it says
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Tracks recorded on a conventional MD device (marked with ) can be imported into My Library.
Note: Can be used with an MD-importing compatible device.

But the manual of the MZ-NH700 says (p. 101)
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You cannot import tracks that were recorder in a Net MD mode to your computer, or tracks that have been recorded on a device that does not support Hi-MD mode.
... back to awful sad.gif

I really hope i'm wrong, but my guess is that Sony want's you to spend more money to copy your own redordings. Would be nice if you keep us informed, though.

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