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How can I tell if my version of DSOTM was mastered with pre-emphasis?
post Oct 4 2012, 02:01
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Per http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....st&p=810470, I looked at my CD of Dark Side of the Moon, and looked at the tedious but uninsightful discussion at http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=264920 , and still can't definitively determine if my CD has pre-emphasis or not. Any advice appreciated!

My CD is labelled on the top as:
CDP 7 46001 2
DIDX 226
Made in the U.S.A.
Manufactured for Capital Records, Inc.
1973 The Gramaphone Company Limited
1973 Capital Records, Inc.

Around the inner ring on the top:
DIDX 226 111A6

Around the innermost ring on the top:
Made in USA - Digital Audio Disc Corp.

On the back of the CD case, upper right:
7 46001 2
DIDX 226
Barcode 0 777-46001-2

Cover of the booklet has the pyramid and prism spectrum graphic, and in the upper right a circle around "Pink Floyd the Dark Side of the Moon"

On the back of the booklet, upper right:
7 46001 2
DIDX 226

I bought it new in the 1980's for what it's worth. I used dBpoweramp to rip it and it did not detect pre-emphasis. The images shown on the first link above on discogs are exactly as on my CD, with two exceptions:

- my CD has DIDX 226 on the inner ring of the disc itself which discogs specifically precludes from the version it is defining.
- the outlined section on the left of the top of the CD image on discogs shows a second row of just "Made in the U.S.A.", while my version has "DIDX 226 | Made in U.S.A."

moderator: please add "version" after "my" in the thread title - thanks!

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post Oct 4 2012, 18:43
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Two samples from Money uploaded. One from the 20th anniversary edition, and then the suspicious one, a Japanese press -- the latter having positive ReplayGain.

They were ripped with dBpoweramp, which did not in version 13 log pre-emph. Since dBpoweramp does not (still not, AFAIK) subchannel, and from the Discogs information that there are indeed DSOTM pressings without the flag in TOC, I find it likely that the explanation is this is one such -- not that I simply overlooked the dBpoweramp screen; I cannot be sure, as they are stuffed away, so I cannot just find them and check with EAC. (Not all have jewel cases or booklets either, so might be hard to find ... what's $0.99 in the no-booklet bargain bin for another master of DSOTM?)

I have the following AccurateRip IDs (for CDDB ID, the last 8 chars):
009-000f7b7c-00728677-680a1009 for the Japanese (Speak to Me / Breathe in one track)
009-000f86f9-0072c558-710a1109 for the 20th anniversary (ditto)
010-000f950c-00823fc1-810a120a for the 30th anniversary (two tracks)

I also have a fourth one that turn out to have the same ID as the 20th anniversary. Likely a different pressing from the same master.

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post Oct 14 2012, 15:03
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QUOTE (Porcus @ Oct 4 2012, 13:43) *
Two samples from Money uploaded. One from the 20th anniversary edition, and then the suspicious one, a Japanese press

Just to point out the obvious.

The Japanese version has its spectrum significantly raised above about 2 KHz according to a CEP2 FFT analysis. Looks like premphasis.

Sounds that way, too.
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- godrick   How can I tell if my version of DSOTM was mastered with pre-emphasis?   Oct 4 2012, 02:01
- - slks   Even most of the 80s CDs didn't have pre-empha...   Oct 4 2012, 07:30
|- - mjb2006   QUOTE (godrick @ Oct 3 2012, 19:01) Aroun...   Oct 5 2012, 04:49
- - godrick   ...which works great for pre-emphasized discs that...   Oct 4 2012, 14:34
- - DVDdoug   How does it sound to you? As far as I know, I...   Oct 4 2012, 17:58
|- - Glenn Gundlach   QUOTE (DVDdoug @ Oct 4 2012, 08:58) How d...   Oct 14 2012, 17:39
- - Porcus   Two samples from Money uploaded. One from the 20th...   Oct 4 2012, 18:43
|- - Arnold B. Krueger   QUOTE (Porcus @ Oct 4 2012, 13:43) Two sa...   Oct 14 2012, 15:03
|- - Porcus   QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Oct 14 2012, 16...   Oct 14 2012, 23:35
- - Canar   QUOTE (godrick @ Oct 3 2012, 18:01) moder...   Oct 5 2012, 04:58
- - godrick   mjb2006: thank you very much - it appears my versi...   Oct 5 2012, 09:21
- - greynol   I just verified that my copy of DTSOM is the same ...   Oct 14 2012, 01:49
|- - mjb2006   QUOTE (greynol @ Oct 13 2012, 17:49) I ju...   Nov 30 2012, 19:20
- - greynol   Allow me to give a little background on the issue ...   Oct 14 2012, 17:46
|- - mjb2006   For some reason I thought EAC did put FLAGS PRE in...   Oct 15 2012, 01:18
- - edwardar   I have the 'blackface' version with the sa...   Oct 14 2012, 19:51
- - greynol   How did you test it?   Oct 15 2012, 03:07
|- - mjb2006   QUOTE (greynol @ Oct 14 2012, 20:07) How ...   Oct 15 2012, 12:53
- - Porcus   I uploaded a third one. Anyone who feels like ju...   Nov 22 2012, 00:20

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