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steelglam
post Sep 17 2012, 16:33
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Hello,

I'm a newbie to the ogg vorbis world, and I am trying to figure out which is the best encoder at the moment. I have an HP Pavilion laptop with an Intel Core i5-2430M processor, and running a 64-bit version of Windows 7. I am also using the newest version of Exact Audio Copy to rip CDs.

I've been using LAME 3.99.5, libsndfile 1.0.25 64bit to encode MP3s from CDs, but I'd like to try my hands at Ogg Vorbis. I read the Hydrogenaudio wiki on using EAC and Ogg Vorbis, but it seems a bit outdated, since I notice that RareWares has newer versions of the encoder posted.

My primary concern is sound quality, followed by file size, and then lastly encoding speed. I notice three different recent encoders on the RareWares site: Oggenc2.87 using libVorbis v1.3.3, Oggenc2.87 using aoTuVb6.03, and Oggenc2.87 using aoTuVb6.03 (Lancer Builds). But I can't seem to figure out the differences between them in terms of sound quality and file size.

Any insight is greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
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eahm
post Sep 17 2012, 19:34
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QUOTE (pdq @ Sep 17 2012, 09:24) *
Granted you will get less than 1000 songs in FLAC, but do you really need so many?

I will never understand these questions. He can use 100000 files for what I care.

QUOTE (edwardar @ Sep 17 2012, 09:24) *
Unless things have changed lately, I believe using Ogg Vorbis on the Sansa clip and fuze in rockbox consumes less battery power than MP3 and AAC. This is a priority for me. The fact that Ogg Vorbis achieves transparency at lower bitrates than MP3 for me is a bonus.

I also use the version eahm refers to (though I use the x86 version).

Actually, MP3 gives better battery life than Ogg Vorbis and AAC even better than Ogg Vorbis. I can't find the article now because I am working but I'm sure it's one of the first links on Google.

Remember the Sansa has 8000 file limit, it's doesn't work over 8000.

Also, MP3 achieve transparency around 192kbps, Ogg Vorbis around 160kbps, AAC even less (let's say 128kbps) and Opus is supposed to achieve it at even less bitrates (http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Transparency) but really, AAC is fenomenal and it's becoming the new widely used lossy format, Apple also uses it with iTunes. If you use True VBR q63 you will have very small transparent files with the average of 135kbps. You will fit 4000 AAC files in ~16GB.

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post Sep 17 2012, 19:48
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QUOTE (eahm @ Sep 17 2012, 22:34) *
Actually, MP3 gives better battery life than Ogg Vorbis and AAC even better than Ogg Vorbis. I can't find the article now because I am working but I'm sure it's one of the first links on Google.

OP uses Rockbox, so: "performance comparisons of various codecs in Rockbox on arm9e (specifically a Sansa Clipv2)"
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post Sep 25 2012, 01:57
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QUOTE (lvqcl @ Sep 17 2012, 14:48) *
QUOTE (eahm @ Sep 17 2012, 22:34) *
Actually, MP3 gives better battery life than Ogg Vorbis and AAC even better than Ogg Vorbis. I can't find the article now because I am working but I'm sure it's one of the first links on Google.

OP uses Rockbox, so: "performance comparisons of various codecs in Rockbox on arm9e (specifically a Sansa Clipv2)"


I'm actually kind of curious what the link was hes thinking of since the Clip/Clip+ don't even support AAC without Rockbox.
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- steelglam   Recommended Ogg encoder   Sep 17 2012, 16:33
- - eahm   Why do you want to switch to Ogg Vorbis NOW instea...   Sep 17 2012, 16:48
|- - steelglam   QUOTE (eahm @ Sep 17 2012, 11:48) Why do ...   Sep 17 2012, 16:55
|- - spicymeatball77   QUOTE (eahm @ Sep 17 2012, 10:48) Why do ...   Apr 19 2013, 21:08
- - pdq   Sansa Clip+ will play FLAC files. Have you conside...   Sep 17 2012, 17:10
|- - steelglam   QUOTE (pdq @ Sep 17 2012, 12:10) Sansa Cl...   Sep 17 2012, 17:20
- - pdq   You need to be careful of unsupported claims of au...   Sep 17 2012, 17:24
|- - steelglam   QUOTE (pdq @ Sep 17 2012, 12:24) You need...   Sep 17 2012, 17:34
- - edwardar   Unless things have changed lately, I believe using...   Sep 17 2012, 17:24
|- - skamp   QUOTE (pdq @ Sep 17 2012, 18:24) Granted ...   Sep 17 2012, 17:26
|- - steelglam   QUOTE (edwardar @ Sep 17 2012, 12:24) Unl...   Sep 17 2012, 18:34
- - eahm   QUOTE (pdq @ Sep 17 2012, 09:24) Granted ...   Sep 17 2012, 19:34
|- - lvqcl   QUOTE (eahm @ Sep 17 2012, 22:34) Actuall...   Sep 17 2012, 19:48
|- - saratoga   QUOTE (lvqcl @ Sep 17 2012, 14:48) QUOTE ...   Sep 25 2012, 01:57
- - AliceWonder   I'd like to comment on this. The reason I lik...   Sep 25 2012, 01:45
|- - Pellaeon   QUOTE (AliceWonder @ Sep 24 2012, 18:45) ...   Sep 10 2013, 20:13
- - Oggie-Ben-Doggie   Ogg Vorbis is my preferred format for portable lis...   Oct 2 2012, 12:45
- - AshenTech   QUOTE (eahm @ Sep 17 2012, 12:34) QUOTE (...   May 28 2013, 06:28
|- - db1989   QUOTE (AshenTech @ May 28 2013, 06:28) mp...   May 28 2013, 11:41
|- - DonP   QUOTE (AshenTech @ May 28 2013, 01:28) Op...   May 28 2013, 13:16
|- - spicymeatball77   QUOTE (AshenTech @ May 28 2013, 00:28) vo...   May 28 2013, 15:26
- - testyou   Many MP3 patents have expired, and: QUOTE (Wikiped...   Sep 10 2013, 22:43
|- - Pellaeon   QUOTE (testyou @ Sep 10 2013, 15:43) Many...   Oct 17 2013, 21:05
|- - saratoga   QUOTE (Pellaeon @ Oct 17 2013, 16:05) But...   Oct 17 2013, 21:24
- - apastuszak   To resurrect an old thread.. I was looking at Opu...   Oct 3 2014, 18:41
|- - eahm   QUOTE (apastuszak @ Oct 3 2014, 10:41) it...   Oct 3 2014, 18:48
- - [JAZ]   The correct description would be that opus is mean...   Oct 3 2014, 19:25
- - lithopsian   We seem to have diverged a bit from the original q...   Oct 3 2014, 19:44
- - SilverSlimer   I've converted all of my music to OGG Vorbis a...   Nov 5 2014, 00:11
- - lithopsian   QUOTE (SilverSlimer @ Nov 5 2014, 00:11) ...   Nov 5 2014, 15:03


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