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Creative SB Audigy 2 vs Realtek ALC889 (Onboard)
fake1337
post Sep 13 2012, 23:56
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Hello.

So I have an old Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 laying around and I'm currently using my onboard Realtek ALC889. Now people in general seem to think that a dedicated sound card is always better than onboard sound, but the Audigy 2 is much older than the onboard sound. Which one of these would give the best sound?

My speakers are the Corsair SP2500, in other words rather decent (I guess?).
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punkrockdude
post Sep 14 2012, 00:34
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First of all, using these built-in converters I always oversample in Windows and Linux. In Windows I set audio sample rate in playback settings to 96kHz or 192kHz. I do the same in Linux using Pulseaudio in the file /etc/pulse/daemon.conf. Try this and report back what you think. Consider the hard rules in TOS #8 which is often mentioned when describing what you hear.
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post Sep 14 2012, 07:43
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QUOTE (punkrockdude @ Sep 13 2012, 19:34) *
First of all, using these built-in converters I always oversample in Windows and Linux. In Windows I set audio sample rate in playback settings to 96kHz or 192kHz. I do the same in Linux using Pulseaudio in the file /etc/pulse/daemon.conf. Try this and report back what you think. Consider the hard rules in TOS #8 which is often mentioned when describing what you hear.


Physician, cure thyself! All that high-sample rate processing likely has no audible consequences.
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punkrockdude
post Sep 15 2012, 16:23
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QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Sep 14 2012, 08:43) *
QUOTE (punkrockdude @ Sep 13 2012, 19:34) *
First of all, using these built-in converters I always oversample in Windows and Linux. In Windows I set audio sample rate in playback settings to 96kHz or 192kHz. I do the same in Linux using Pulseaudio in the file /etc/pulse/daemon.conf. Try this and report back what you think. Consider the hard rules in TOS #8 which is often mentioned when describing what you hear.


Physician, cure thyself! All that high-sample rate processing likely has no audible consequences.

Know-it-all, silent yourself. When you are me you can subliminably call me an idiot. Regards.
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post Sep 16 2012, 00:24
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QUOTE (punkrockdude @ Sep 15 2012, 11:23) *
QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Sep 14 2012, 08:43) *
QUOTE (punkrockdude @ Sep 13 2012, 19:34) *
First of all, using these built-in converters I always oversample in Windows and Linux. In Windows I set audio sample rate in playback settings to 96kHz or 192kHz. I do the same in Linux using Pulseaudio in the file /etc/pulse/daemon.conf. Try this and report back what you think. Consider the hard rules in TOS #8 which is often mentioned when describing what you hear.


Physician, cure thyself! All that high-sample rate processing likely has no audible consequences.

Know-it-all, silent yourself. When you are me you can subliminably call me an idiot. Regards.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physician,_heal_thyself

I suspect that you misunderstand what the phrase means. Basically, Arnold is pointing out that you shouldn't remind other people about TOS#8 while also violating it.
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post Sep 16 2012, 10:04
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QUOTE (saratoga @ Sep 16 2012, 01:24) *
QUOTE (punkrockdude @ Sep 15 2012, 11:23) *
QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Sep 14 2012, 08:43) *
QUOTE (punkrockdude @ Sep 13 2012, 19:34) *
First of all, using these built-in converters I always oversample in Windows and Linux. In Windows I set audio sample rate in playback settings to 96kHz or 192kHz. I do the same in Linux using Pulseaudio in the file /etc/pulse/daemon.conf. Try this and report back what you think. Consider the hard rules in TOS #8 which is often mentioned when describing what you hear.


Physician, cure thyself! All that high-sample rate processing likely has no audible consequences.

Know-it-all, silent yourself. When you are me you can subliminably call me an idiot. Regards.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physician,_heal_thyself

I suspect that you misunderstand what the phrase means. Basically, Arnold is pointing out that you shouldn't remind other people about TOS#8 while also violating it.

Thanks for the wiki page. About the TOS #8, I don't know how I violated it. I only said what settings I use and I did not say anything about it being better. I only shared what settings I use. I did not share my opnions of it being better or worse. That must be like someone saying they use ogg and then we tell him he violated TOS #8?

I get the feeling that this forum is a place for those who always dreamed of being police but never for any reason became it. Therefore they throw TOS #8 around like crazy to make them feel like one. I might be wrong but it is the my general perception and I'll be glad if you describe TOS #8 more detailed than the Wiki. If I would have said "try 96kHz or 192 kHz because I think it is better" then I would have understood you. I would then have pointed out that it somehow is better. Now I only said what I use and told him to try it and report back what he thinks. I never said my opinion on what difference or similarity it would produce.

Regards.
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Posts in this topic
- fake1337   Creative SB Audigy 2 vs Realtek ALC889 (Onboard)   Sep 13 2012, 23:56
- - DVDdoug   QUOTE Now people in general seem to think that a d...   Sep 14 2012, 00:31
- - punkrockdude   First of all, using these built-in converters I al...   Sep 14 2012, 00:34
|- - Arnold B. Krueger   QUOTE (punkrockdude @ Sep 13 2012, 19:34)...   Sep 14 2012, 07:43
|- - punkrockdude   QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Sep 14 2012, 08...   Sep 15 2012, 16:23
|- - saratoga   QUOTE (punkrockdude @ Sep 15 2012, 11:23)...   Sep 16 2012, 00:24
|- - punkrockdude   QUOTE (saratoga @ Sep 16 2012, 01:24) QUO...   Sep 16 2012, 10:04
|- - westgroveg   QUOTE (punkrockdude @ Sep 16 2012, 22:04)...   Sep 16 2012, 10:21
- - dhromed   When I destroyed my onboard and got a separate car...   Sep 14 2012, 08:43
- - hlloyge   Only thing I noticed is louder output form dedicat...   Sep 14 2012, 11:03
|- - Arnold B. Krueger   QUOTE (hlloyge @ Sep 14 2012, 06:03) Only...   Sep 14 2012, 15:38
- - zima   Almost a decade ago I did have a setup where heari...   Sep 14 2012, 12:35
- - SoNic67   QUOTE (fake1337 @ Sep 13 2012, 18:56) Hel...   Sep 15 2012, 00:31
- - _if   The way I got around this question is by using my ...   Sep 15 2012, 22:03
- - nagual   QUOTE (fake1337 @ Sep 13 2012, 23:56) Hel...   Sep 15 2012, 23:21
- - krafty   I had to employ an ALC889 chip, which is considere...   Sep 16 2012, 02:17
- - IgorC   104 dB is a theoretical maximum. Now the final pe...   Sep 16 2012, 03:02
- - bennetng   Creative's Audigy and X-Fi cards have higher o...   Sep 16 2012, 08:04
- - westgroveg   I have an X-Fi and ALWAYS end up with a mid/high e...   Sep 16 2012, 10:13


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