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post Aug 31 2012, 17:26
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From January 2012 FLAC is being maintained by Erik de Castro Lopo under the auspices of the Xiph.org Foundation.


Taken from

https://github.com/crrodriguez/flac

...but I guess this guy does not have the access to flac.soureforge.net

From an Email I sent off to Eric,

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Mr Spoon wrote:

> We have been trying to find what has happened to Josh for quite a while

He's fine, just not working on FLAC anymore.

> now, we came across https://github.com/crrodriguez/flac which suggests =
> you have taken over FLAC management? is this correct?

Yes it is.

> have you taken over flac.sf.net also?

We are in the process of moving the web pages to:

http://xiph.rog/flac/

Once that is done, we will ask Josh to set up a HTTP redirect on the
flac.sf.net web site.

Cheers,
Erik


So it seems Josh is no longer working on FLAC, I am concerned that merging into xiph might not be best for FLACs future...(it is nothing personal against xiph), FLAC has a window of opportunity to become the defacto lossless codec, but without strong management it will not (and in 4 years everything will be in Apple lossless, or some such)

I propose that a team from HA is put together and then propose to xiph that such a team take over FLACs stewardship. If you are interested put your name forward, and if the team is strong, we can propose.

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post Nov 20 2012, 16:54
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FLAC is a great format.

But given that the market is moving to thinner and lighter devices a storage size will remain small compared to one of a desktop devices.
Lossy formats will remain more attractive alternative for a long time.


It's very uncommon that somebody uses lossless on his/her smartphone or tablet with 16-32 GB or so. Oh, and time delay to transfer big files to mobile devices quite uncomfortable. Too many limitations to my taste.
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- spoon   The Future of FLAC   Aug 31 2012, 17:26
- - yourlord   Is there a reason to question Eric's stewardsh...   Aug 31 2012, 18:15
|- - mudlord   QUOTE (yourlord @ Aug 31 2012, 12:15) Is ...   Sep 1 2012, 09:31
|- - BFG   I find this thread to be a fascinating look into a...   Nov 21 2012, 00:21
|- - tuffy   QUOTE (BFG @ Nov 20 2012, 18:21) So here...   Nov 21 2012, 01:37
||- - Porcus   QUOTE (tuffy @ Nov 21 2012, 01:37) Howeve...   Nov 21 2012, 02:13
||- - BFG   QUOTE (Porcus @ Nov 20 2012, 19:13) Shoul...   Nov 21 2012, 05:46
||- - Dynamic   QUOTE (BFG @ Nov 21 2012, 04:46) But yes,...   Nov 22 2012, 12:06
|- - eahm   QUOTE (BFG @ Nov 20 2012, 16:21) I find t...   Nov 21 2012, 02:06
- - spoon   If it has been under Xiph umbrella for some time, ...   Aug 31 2012, 18:59
- - xTobix   QUOTE (spoon @ Aug 31 2012, 17:26) QUOTE ...   Aug 31 2012, 19:33
|- - greynol   QUOTE (xTobix @ Aug 31 2012, 11:33) I am ...   Aug 31 2012, 19:52
- - Kohlrabi   QUOTE (spoon @ Aug 31 2012, 18:26) https:...   Aug 31 2012, 19:39
|- - xTobix   Thanks Kohlrabi, QUOTE (Kohlrabi @ Aug 31 20...   Aug 31 2012, 20:15
|- - db1989   QUOTE (xTobix @ Aug 31 2012, 20:15) @grey...   Aug 31 2012, 22:04
|- - xTobix   QUOTE (db1989 @ Aug 31 2012, 22:04) QUOTE...   Aug 31 2012, 22:16
- - yourlord   From a code base perspective I'm not sure what...   Aug 31 2012, 20:26
- - spoon   Got it in one yourlord (I think what is really nee...   Aug 31 2012, 21:11
- - sshd   FLAC needs >2G support   Aug 31 2012, 21:16
- - IgorC   AFAIK the future Xiph's format Ghost will supp...   Aug 31 2012, 21:30
- - westgroveg   I'm curious as to how you 'push' a aud...   Aug 31 2012, 21:51
- - spoon   Everybody knows somebody...contacts can be found -...   Aug 31 2012, 22:02
- - Wombat   Strangely the flac development stopped around the ...   Aug 31 2012, 22:09
- - yourlord   QUOTE (IgorC @ Aug 31 2012, 16:30) AFAIK ...   Aug 31 2012, 22:14
|- - xiphmont   QUOTE (yourlord @ Aug 31 2012, 17:14) QUO...   Sep 1 2012, 11:18
- - krafty   I was also wondering what happened to the FLAC pro...   Aug 31 2012, 23:43
|- - Dario   QUOTE (krafty @ Sep 1 2012, 00:43) (Stran...   Sep 1 2012, 00:03
- - kwanbis   More or less, they reached a point of maturity. Bu...   Sep 1 2012, 02:01
- - godrick   It seems impossible to tell what xiph's goals ...   Sep 1 2012, 03:21
|- - jensend   Most of this thread is extremely bizarre. Reading ...   Sep 1 2012, 07:11
- - spoon   @Jensend - flac does not hugely need massive devel...   Sep 1 2012, 09:21
|- - maikmerten   QUOTE (spoon @ Sep 1 2012, 09:21) @Jensen...   Sep 1 2012, 10:37
- - kjoonlee   So volunteer for work. Not that hard, I should thi...   Sep 1 2012, 09:29
- - smok3   it is open source right? So no need to ask questi...   Sep 1 2012, 10:28
- - AliceWonder   The only problem I have with flac under Xiph stewa...   Sep 2 2012, 10:57
|- - maikmerten   QUOTE (AliceWonder @ Sep 2 2012, 10:57) T...   Sep 3 2012, 09:05
|- - AliceWonder   QUOTE QUOTE (maikmerten @ Sep 3 2012, 01...   Sep 3 2012, 11:48
- - mudlord   As I said, not gonna happen when the current maint...   Sep 2 2012, 13:21
|- - saratoga   QUOTE (mudlord @ Sep 2 2012, 08:21) As I ...   Sep 2 2012, 15:57
- - Nick.C   Support for 16-bit float samples would be nice too...   Sep 2 2012, 13:27
- - mudlord   I hardly doubt it this has anything to do with ide...   Sep 3 2012, 00:09
|- - godrick   QUOTE (mudlord @ Sep 3 2012, 00:09) I har...   Sep 3 2012, 02:52
|- - saratoga   QUOTE (mudlord @ Sep 2 2012, 19:09) I har...   Sep 6 2012, 06:30
|- - 73ChargerFan   QUOTE (mudlord @ Sep 2 2012, 16:09) I har...   Oct 21 2012, 00:11
- - markanini   Maybe it's an aside but I see flac as having u...   Sep 3 2012, 01:44
|- - maikmerten   QUOTE (markanini @ Sep 3 2012, 01:44) Yet...   Sep 3 2012, 08:53
|- - GeSomeone   QUOTE (markanini @ Sep 3 2012, 02:44) Yet...   Oct 20 2012, 18:21
- - kornchild2002   QUOTE (spoon @ Aug 31 2012, 10:26) So it ...   Sep 3 2012, 04:30
|- - AliceWonder   QUOTE (kornchild2002 @ Sep 2 2012, 20:30)...   Sep 3 2012, 07:17
- - Porcus   Keep calm now. A “hostile takeover” -- or anything...   Sep 3 2012, 08:59
|- - db1989   QUOTE (Porcus @ Sep 3 2012, 08:59) Keep c...   Sep 3 2012, 10:58
- - CoyoteSmith   Flac's biggest issue IMO is broad knowledge fr...   Sep 6 2012, 03:06
- - mudlord   Not productive? I call it being completely realist...   Sep 6 2012, 06:58
- - Azevedo   Such a downturn for the economy, such a downturn f...   Oct 20 2012, 14:58
- - Wombat   QUOTE (GeSomeone @ Oct 20 2012, 19:21) Ot...   Oct 20 2012, 18:36
- - spoon   Eric had assured me he would reply addressing some...   Oct 20 2012, 19:04
- - Brand   QUOTE (maikmerten @ Sep 1 2012, 11:37) On...   Oct 21 2012, 09:42
- - lameboy   I think Xiph should push to make FLAC an ISO-stand...   Oct 23 2012, 08:05
- - LithosZA   QUOTE I think Xiph should push to make FLAC an ISO...   Oct 23 2012, 08:17
|- - lameboy   QUOTE (LithosZA @ Oct 23 2012, 09:17) QUO...   Oct 23 2012, 09:40
- - eahm   QUOTE (sshd @ Aug 31 2012, 13:16) FLAC ne...   Nov 20 2012, 05:29
- - shadowking   Oh this nonsense has been debunked before. Wavpack...   Nov 20 2012, 06:14
|- - eahm   QUOTE (shadowking @ Nov 19 2012, 22:14) O...   Nov 20 2012, 06:24
- - shadowking   How exactly is a wavpack user gonna end up with a ...   Nov 20 2012, 06:29
|- - Porcus   QUOTE (shadowking @ Nov 20 2012, 06:29) H...   Nov 20 2012, 09:31
- - greensdrive   QUOTE (eahm @ Nov 19 2012, 22:29) You cou...   Nov 20 2012, 06:49
- - nu774   I don't get it. Container formats like WAV, AI...   Nov 20 2012, 07:00
- - 2Bdecided   Some of this is pure naivety. lossyFLAC exists Th...   Nov 20 2012, 11:44
- - IgorC   FLAC is a great format. But given that the market...   Nov 20 2012, 16:54
- - Nick.C   Class 10 64GB µSDHC card in phone, FLAC to phone i...   Nov 20 2012, 19:54
|- - IgorC   QUOTE (Nick.C @ Nov 20 2012, 15:54) Class...   Nov 21 2012, 03:52
- - pdq   I keep a collection of 8 GB cards ($4 each) a...   Nov 20 2012, 20:11
- - yourlord   I use FLAC as my playable local network archive. I...   Nov 20 2012, 22:01
- - greynol   You might try and see how TAK does on them.   Nov 21 2012, 06:34
- - jkauff   I have a new iPhone 5, my first Apple device. My a...   Nov 22 2012, 16:08
- - greynol   Are you prepared to substantiate either of those s...   Nov 22 2012, 16:36
|- - jkauff   QUOTE (greynol @ Nov 22 2012, 16:36) Are ...   Nov 22 2012, 22:29
- - skamp   QUOTE (jkauff @ Nov 22 2012, 16:08) IMO, ...   Nov 23 2012, 00:48
|- - jkauff   QUOTE (skamp @ Nov 23 2012, 00:48) Those ...   Nov 23 2012, 08:07
- - greynol   It's too bad this topic had to take tangential...   Nov 23 2012, 16:37
- - Axon   If the future of FLAC is really in question, why h...   Nov 25 2012, 07:17
- - spoon   The fact that Eric has (up until now) ignored the ...   Nov 25 2012, 20:49
- - BFG   This kind of makes me wonder if Justin Ruggles (th...   Nov 25 2012, 21:36
|- - Justin Ruggles   QUOTE (BFG @ Nov 25 2012, 16:36) This kin...   Nov 26 2012, 18:51
|- - BFG   QUOTE (Justin Ruggles @ Nov 26 2012, 11:5...   Nov 26 2012, 21:30
- - notinasia   I think code development and networking can be sep...   Mar 4 2013, 12:09
- - notinasia   So I search for FLAC on facebook before all this h...   Mar 4 2013, 13:13


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