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Dude111
post Aug 29 2012, 20:53
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Im curious what you guys prefer??

I have always preferred Mono because everything is combined together and to me sounds the best..

I didnt see any threads discussing it so i thought i'd start one and see where it goes smile.gif

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LithosZA
post Aug 29 2012, 21:28
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Stereo, because Binaural recordings require it and those recordings usually sound the most life-like to me. Some people don't like the extreme channel seperation when listening to certain older stereo songs through headphones. For those they can use a stereophonic-to-binaural DSP filter like this one: http://bs2b.sourceforge.net/
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Glenn Gundlach
post Aug 31 2012, 08:38
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QUOTE (LithosZA @ Aug 29 2012, 12:28) *
Stereo, because Binaural recordings require it and those recordings usually sound the most life-like to me. Some people don't like the extreme channel seperation when listening to certain older stereo songs through headphones. For those they can use a stereophonic-to-binaural DSP filter like this one: http://bs2b.sourceforge.net/


"Extreme channel separation" recordings are often better described as multi-channel mono as the 'stereo' effect is created in the mixing console. When viewed on and X-Y phase display will be mostly an oval. This used to be VERY common given the technical limitations of stereo FM and LPs. True stereo in its simplest form requires 2 channels with some degree of physical separation of the mics and when viewed on an X-Y phase display will show considerable 'out of phase' information. I find it FAR more satisfying to listen to. The absolute WORST in my opinion is 'synthesized' stereo. Some are done by comb filtering frequencies and putting the complement on the other channel. The absolute worst I heard - and the discarded the disc - had most of the lows on the left and the highs on the right. THAT "engineer" didn't have a clue.

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post Aug 31 2012, 15:59
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QUOTE (Glenn Gundlach @ Aug 31 2012, 02:38) *
"Extreme channel separation" recordings are often better described as multi-channel mono as the 'stereo' effect is created in the mixing console. When viewed on and X-Y phase display will be mostly an oval.
I like to describe the display as a "rats nest" because the X and Y inputs are uncorrelated. With true stereo, the greater the physical separation of mics the more random phase is displayed. To the extreme, coincident "stereo" and M/S shows almost no out of phase material and is heavily correlated, spaced omnis, like you'd use for a big pipe organ recording (private ;-) to GG), shows lots of random and out of phase material. X-Y displays show LF phase more easily than HF, so the greater the spacing, the lower the frequency that phase differences can occur, and the easier to see on that display. It's very very hard to make the correlation between an X-Y display and what is audibly "good", except in the extremes. But you knew that.
QUOTE (Glenn Gundlach @ Aug 31 2012, 02:38) *
This used to be VERY common given the technical limitations of stereo FM and LPs.
Not exactly sure which tech limits you're referring to, perhaps vertical groove limits, but I'll guess that the multi-mono craze of the 60s and early 70s had to do with the invention of multi-track recording and the desire by producers/engineers to gain more control. The hard-panned "ping-pong" mixes probably helped sell stereos because the effect was so obvious, if obnoxious.

QUOTE (Glenn Gundlach @ Aug 31 2012, 02:38) *
The absolute WORST in my opinion is 'synthesized' stereo. Some are done by comb filtering frequencies and putting the complement on the other channel. The absolute worst I heard - and the discarded the disc - had most of the lows on the left and the highs on the right. THAT "engineer" didn't have a clue.

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If by "discarded the disc" you mean "blew it up with a shotgun", I applaud you. I had an unfortunate brush with a so-called "stereo synthesizer" at an FM station in a small market that desired to present stereo material 100% of the time, but lacked enough stereo hardware to do it. They stereo-ized mono commercials. What that was supposed to accomplish still evades me. I hope the box has long since found its way to the scrap yard. My only regret is not witnessing its melt-down personally.
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- Dude111   Stereo or Mono?   Aug 29 2012, 20:53
- - jayess   QUOTE (Dude111 @ Aug 29 2012, 14:53) Im c...   Aug 29 2012, 21:21
|- - Ron Jones   QUOTE (jayess @ Aug 29 2012, 13:21) I pre...   Aug 30 2012, 21:37
- - LithosZA   Stereo, because Binaural recordings require it and...   Aug 29 2012, 21:28
|- - Glenn Gundlach   QUOTE (LithosZA @ Aug 29 2012, 12:28) Ste...   Aug 31 2012, 08:38
|- - dc2bluelight   QUOTE (Glenn Gundlach @ Aug 31 2012, 02:3...   Aug 31 2012, 15:59
- - dc2bluelight   There are lots of reasons some people prefer mono....   Aug 30 2012, 05:15
- - greynol   When played through a pair of stereo speakers, is ...   Aug 30 2012, 05:24
- - dc2bluelight   Just one more comment...I recently heard a mono re...   Aug 30 2012, 05:28
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