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Do you actually burn a lossless cd?, is using programs like burrrn, nero b-rom, or cdburnerxp
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post Jul 7 2012, 11:04
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Hey fellas, i tried to do alot of searching before i posted this, and none of the posts really answered a question for me.

Let me explain my situation, like many of you here, I'm an audiophile and prefer having my entire collection in loss-less for archiving.
all i have is FLAC files.
I have a very nice custom sound system in my vehicle and a nice home theater, and I'd like to have retail quality cd's with it.

I want to burn loss-less CD's, following redbook standards, so essentially i want a retail quality cd on a burned cd.

Here's my question, programs such as cdburnerxp where you just drag and drop the files, and click burn at this point you'll see something like "adding files to image" or something along that line, is programs like cdburnerxp actually burning the files into a retail quality cd. or does it convert the files to mp3 and burn, this question applies to other software like burrrn, nero b-rom, et cetera.

Also is there a way to figure out how to match checksums? for example match track md5's to burned track's md5?

if so then wouldn't that be able to tell you if whatever program is really burning a loss-less cd, because you could re-rip, and have the exact same filesize, and even better yet, checking burned tracks in something like audacity to match waveforms with original flac.

How about CD-Text, does this affect a lossles burn?

I'm sorry if posted this in the wrong section, i did try searching up to on previous threads, but none really answered the question.

Thanks in advance fellas!

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post Nov 9 2012, 03:12
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Hello, I have some questions related to the topic.

Does every original CD or DVD (the said retailer quality) have loss-less audio?
If an original CD/DVD (from retailer) contains music in lossy format (MP3) to begin with, it will be pointless to rip it in loss-less format (FLAC) right?
So, how do we determine what format (FLAC, WAV or lossy MP3) is actually used in an audio cd/dvd?
If we can do this, we can rip the exact same copy and format of the music recorded in the music studio right?
Now that leads to another question: Since people often use FLAC as loss-less format, I'm assuming most recording studio use this?

Thanks and sorry for the noob questions.
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post Nov 9 2012, 03:40
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QUOTE (Dave_Xenos @ Nov 8 2012, 21:12) *
Does every original CD or DVD (the said retailer quality) have loss-less audio?


They should so long as the retailer and studio are trustworthy. It's not unheard of for a retail CD to be sourced from lossy files though. In those cases it's a terrible screw up on their part or they are unscrupulous.

QUOTE (Dave_Xenos @ Nov 8 2012, 21:12) *
If an original CD/DVD (from retailer) contains music in lossy format (MP3) to begin with, it will be pointless to rip it in loss-less format (FLAC) right?


Not necessarily. If you rip lossy to lossy you'll lose quality. Ripping to lossless prevents further quality loss. Though I personally dislike the existance of lossless files sourced from lossy.


QUOTE (Dave_Xenos @ Nov 8 2012, 21:12) *
So, how do we determine what format (FLAC, WAV or lossy MP3) is actually used in an audio cd/dvd?


Retail CD's based on redbook are always PCM, which is inherently lossless.

QUOTE (Dave_Xenos @ Nov 8 2012, 21:12) *
If we can do this, we can rip the exact same copy and format of the music recorded in the music studio right?


You can rip to PCM just fine. That's not to say it's the same format used in the studio. It's just an audibly accurate reproduction of the final master.


QUOTE (Dave_Xenos @ Nov 8 2012, 21:12) *
Now that leads to another question: Since people often use FLAC as loss-less format, I'm assuming most recording studio use this?


Nope. Most recording studios use PCM formats since they require the least processing power to work with.
People use compressed lossless (FLAC, etc) to preserve the audio quality of the original CD while saving storage space.

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