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Best bitrate for online streaming (aka internet radio).
uart
post May 30 2012, 19:10
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I know that for most of us, as storage capacities have increased we've generally become less concerned about being economic with the bit rates of our encoded music formats. One area however where I"m still kinda interested in bit rate economy is when listening to internet streamed music such as "internet radio". The reason is simple, I've only got 10GB/month downloads and I'd prefer to not use more than about 30% of this for online listening, particularly as it's something that I'm often just using as "background" music.

With that said, what bit-rates to others here find suitable for online radio purposes. Personally I seem to find 64 kbps HE-AAC to be roughly equivalent to FM radio, though that's only a subjective judgement. Just wondering if anyone knew of any tests to establish what codec/bitrates are roughly equivalent FM radio for typical music listening purposes?

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DVDdoug
post May 30 2012, 20:00
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I don't normaly listen to Internet radio, but...

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Personally I seem to find 64 kbps HE-AAC to be roughly equivalent to FM radio, though that's only a subjective judgement.
It's always subjective. wink.gif Analog defects & artifacts are different from digital-compression artifacts & defects.

So, the only way to do this would be to get a bunch of people to compare the sound. When half of the people say A is better, and half of the people say B is better, you could say the quality is "equal". (Or maybe if most of the group doesn't have a preference or can't hear a difference.)

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post May 30 2012, 20:38
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QUOTE (DVDdoug @ May 30 2012, 12:00) *
It's always subjective. wink.gif Analog defects & artifacts are different from digital-compression artifacts & defects.

Yep very true Doug. Actually my FM reception is always a bit noisy, so obviously I could ABX it every time but it wouldn't mean much. The digital artifacts are quite different so it's not an apples to apples comparison. I guess I'm really just asking what other members find acceptable in terms of codecs and bitrates for FM radio replacement?
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- uart   Best bitrate for online streaming (aka internet radio).   May 30 2012, 19:10
- - DVDdoug   I don't normaly listen to Internet radio, but....   May 30 2012, 20:00
|- - uart   QUOTE (DVDdoug @ May 30 2012, 12:00) It...   May 30 2012, 20:38
|- - uart   QUOTE (DVDdoug @ May 30 2012, 12:00) I do...   May 30 2012, 21:03
- - nagual   http://www.977music.com/channels2/oldies/wmplayero...   May 30 2012, 23:17
|- - uart   QUOTE (nagual @ May 30 2012, 14:17) http:...   May 31 2012, 18:11
- - zerowalker   Shouldn´t be, Same hardware should give the same s...   May 30 2012, 23:21
- - LithosZA   Depends on what bandwdith I have available: 192Kb...   May 31 2012, 15:00
- - mixminus1   Years ago, the standard Nullsoft Shoutcast Winamp ...   May 31 2012, 15:54
|- - pdq   QUOTE (mixminus1 @ May 31 2012, 10:54) Ye...   May 31 2012, 16:49
- - nagual   QUOTE (LithosZA @ May 31 2012, 16:00) Per...   May 31 2012, 16:29
- - mixminus1   I suspect it was more like the developers didn...   May 31 2012, 17:07
- - LithosZA   Radio Paradise is my favourite station. A *very* w...   May 31 2012, 19:22
|- - uart   QUOTE (LithosZA @ May 31 2012, 10:22) Rad...   May 31 2012, 19:34
- - Brazil2   Many available formats and bitrates at Absolute Ra...   May 31 2012, 20:19
|- - Stone Free   QUOTE (Brazil2 @ May 31 2012, 20:19) Many...   Jun 11 2012, 15:49
|- - uart   QUOTE (psycho @ Jun 7 2012, 07:29) Anothe...   Jun 11 2012, 17:07
|- - Brazil2   QUOTE (Stone Free @ Jun 11 2012, 16:49) A...   Jun 12 2012, 17:11
|- - Stone Free   QUOTE (uart @ Jun 11 2012, 17:07) QUOTE (...   Jun 14 2012, 15:59
- - LithosZA   QUOTE Could you comment on how you find the qualit...   May 31 2012, 20:22
- - uart   Here's another really nice one streaming 64kpb...   Jun 1 2012, 18:15
|- - henrypinks   QUOTE (uart @ Jun 1 2012, 09:15) Here...   Jun 6 2012, 21:19
- - IgorC   Hopefully new codec Opus will hit 1.0 soon. A kin...   Jun 1 2012, 18:43
|- - uart   QUOTE (IgorC @ Jun 1 2012, 09:43) Hopeful...   Jun 1 2012, 18:55
- - IgorC   Well, that 64 kbps test is already outdated. And O...   Jun 1 2012, 19:09
- - uart   A couple of issues after listening to online ...   Jun 3 2012, 14:36
|- - [JAZ]   QUOTE (uart @ Jun 3 2012, 15:36) Most of ...   Jun 3 2012, 18:18
- - uart   QUOTE I have, in playback options, the settings +3...   Jun 3 2012, 18:22
- - psycho   Another good-sounding 64 kbps AAC radio stream: HA...   Jun 7 2012, 16:29
- - uart   I felt bad about so many subjective opinions in th...   Jun 11 2012, 17:58
- - IgorC   You can try Apple HE-AAC encoder. It's better ...   Jun 11 2012, 19:01


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