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jaz012
post May 29 2012, 20:33
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Hi all,
I'm new to all this and have some questions that would be great to have answered. Basically, I would like to make "perfect" or "near perfect" copies of my cd's and rather than do this multiple times, it would be good to get it right the first time (rather than learn of all the mistakes I made at a later date and then redo it). Ideally, I would prefer to keep the copying times somewhat short so I am willing to sacrifice a little quality for that. I did a test run with a CD in different ways so I hope that can help in this discussion.

First off, I went through this configuring the options exactly the way they recommended:
http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?ti...xact_Audio_Copy
[snip]

Secondly, I followed these instructions to try it out:
http://home.scarlet.be/spb2267/

1. There is a default bitrate in “Compression Options” of 768 kBit/s and it says something about how you can ignore this option and customize it later. But I saw no indication of a place to adjust this setting when I did my extraction. So I'm not sure how to proceed with regards to the bitrate and what bitrate level to choose.

2. I used "Test and Copy Selected Tracks - Compressed" in Secure mode and it took 18 minutes for the CD to finish. When I selected "Drive is capable of retrieving C2 error information" in the Drive Options it cut down the time to 10 minutes. I did perform the “Examine C2 Feature” to make sure that my drive can detect those errors and it did find them on a scratched CD so C2 does seem to work. Therefore I assume that this is the best way to do this for me (the Accurate Rip checkbox was checked but greyed out). Is it the best way? If not what is and why?

3. To know that everything went well, I just need to look for the perfect finish and all are "OK" in the CRC catgory, right? I won't be missing anything that I will later regret when it comes to errors etc.?

4. Gaps: Here is my cue sheet (also there are no gaps mentioned in the gap column of EAC except for the first track). The Index numbers seem strange to me. Are they good?:

CODE
REM GENRE Soul
REM DATE 2011
REM DISCID B10BDC0E
REM COMMENT "ExactAudioCopy v1.0b3"
PERFORMER "Rod Stewart"
TITLE "The Best Of The Great American Songbook"
FILE "01 Long Ago And Far Away.wav" WAVE
TRACK 01 AUDIO
TITLE "Long Ago And Far Away"
PERFORMER "Rod Stewart"
ISRC USJAY0500726
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "02 Someone To Watch Over Me.wav" WAVE
TRACK 02 AUDIO
TITLE "Someone To Watch Over Me"
PERFORMER "Rod Stewart"
ISRC USJAY1000260
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "03 They Can't Take That Away From Me.wav" WAVE
TRACK 03 AUDIO
TITLE "They Can't Take That Away From Me"
PERFORMER "Rod Stewart"
ISRC USJAY0200274
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "04 Beyond The Sea.wav" WAVE
TRACK 04 AUDIO
TITLE "Beyond The Sea"
PERFORMER "Rod Stewart"
ISRC USJAY1000121
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "05 You'll Never Know.wav" WAVE
TRACK 05 AUDIO
TITLE "You'll Never Know"
PERFORMER "Rod Stewart"
ISRC USJAY1000256
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "06 Time After Time.wav" WAVE
TRACK 06 AUDIO
TITLE "Time After Time"
PERFORMER "Rod Stewart"
ISRC USJAY0300312
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "07 I Can't Get Started.wav" WAVE
TRACK 07 AUDIO
TITLE "I Can't Get Started"
PERFORMER "Rod Stewart"
ISRC USJAY0400390
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "08 The Way You Look Tonight.wav" WAVE
TRACK 08 AUDIO
TITLE "The Way You Look Tonight"
PERFORMER "Rod Stewart"
ISRC USJAY0200275
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "09 Bye Bye Blackbird.wav" WAVE
TRACK 09 AUDIO
TITLE "Bye Bye Blackbird"
PERFORMER "Rod Stewart"
ISRC USJAY1000258
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "10 These Foolish Things.wav" WAVE
TRACK 10 AUDIO
TITLE "These Foolish Things"
PERFORMER "Rod Stewart"
ISRC USJAY0200277
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "11 But Not For Me.wav" WAVE
TRACK 11 AUDIO
TITLE "But Not For Me"
PERFORMER "Rod Stewart"
ISRC USJAY0400394
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "12 What A Wonderful World.wav" WAVE
TRACK 12 AUDIO
TITLE "What A Wonderful World"
PERFORMER "Rod Stewart"
ISRC USJAY0400381
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 13 AUDIO
TITLE "My Foolish Beast"
PERFORMER "Rod Stewart"
ISRC USJAY1000126
INDEX 00 03:27:04
FILE "13 My Foolish Beast.wav" WAVE
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "14 I'll Be Seeing You.wav" WAVE
TRACK 14 AUDIO
TITLE "I'll Be Seeing You"
PERFORMER "Rod Stewart"
ISRC USJAY0200290
INDEX 01 00:00:00


This post has been edited by db1989: May 29 2012, 20:46
Reason for edit: 1: snipped pointless quote from guide / 2: Please enclose large items within [codebox] tags.
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jaz012
post May 29 2012, 22:22
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I believe AR is set up as I could find "Send Accurate Rip Results" in the Database dropdown menu. I clicked on it and got this:

Compressing AccurateRip Results...Ok
Compressing Disc TOCs File...Ok
Compressing Index...Ok
Connecting to AccurateRip server...
Requesting version information...
Clearing socket
Submitting results...
AccurateRip submission sucessful!

Finished Submission.

I hope that is it. Here is a log from my latest rip (the 48 minute one). It lists my drive and gives the "Additional command line options" that "did not compute". wink.gif

"If you are using EAC 1.0b2 or newer, then in the Additional command line options box, copy and paste the following string:
-T "artist=%artist%" -T "title=%title%" -T "album=%albumtitle%" -T "date=%year%" -T "tracknumber=%tracknr%" -T "genre=%genre%" -5 %source%"

from here: http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=EAC_and_FLAC

CODE
Exact Audio Copy V1.0 beta 3 from 29. August 2011

EAC extraction logfile from 29. May 2012, 22:31

Various / Trainspotting

Used drive : SlimtypeDVD A DS8A5SH Adapter: 0 ID: 1

Read mode : Secure
Utilize accurate stream : Yes
Defeat audio cache : No
Make use of C2 pointers : No

Read offset correction : 6
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
Null samples used in CRC calculations : Yes
Used interface : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000
Gap handling : Appended to previous track

Used output format : User Defined Encoder
Selected bitrate : 768 kBit/s
Quality : High
Add ID3 tag : No
Command line compressor : C:\Program Files (x86)\Exact Audio Copy\FLAC\FLAC.EXE
Additional command line options : -T "artist=%artist%" -T "title=%title%" -T
"album=%albumtitle%" -T "date=%year%" -T "tracknumber=%tracknr%" -T "genre=%genre%" -5
%source%


TOC of the extracted CD

Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector
---------------------------------------------------------
1 | 0:00.33 | 5:13.20 | 33 | 23527
2 | 5:13.53 | 3:56.37 | 23528 | 41264
3 | 9:10.15 | 10:34.58 | 41265 | 88872
4 | 19:44.73 | 5:09.32 | 88873 | 112079
5 | 24:54.30 | 7:00.15 | 112080 | 143594
6 | 31:54.45 | 4:13.50 | 143595 | 162619
7 | 36:08.20 | 6:00.73 | 162620 | 189692
8 | 42:09.18 | 3:44.57 | 189693 | 206549
9 | 45:54.00 | 4:31.55 | 206550 | 226929
10 | 50:25.55 | 6:27.68 | 226930 | 256022
11 | 56:53.48 | 2:33.40 | 256023 | 267537
12 | 59:27.13 | 3:15.60 | 267538 | 282222
13 | 62:42.73 | 9:44.45 | 282223 | 326067
14 | 72:27.43 | 3:09.00 | 326068 | 340242


Track 1

Filename C:\Users\Other\Desktop\eac test - 111\3\01 Iggy Pop - Lust For Life.wav

Pre-gap length 0:00:02.33

Peak level 87.2 %
Extraction speed 2.1 X
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 2FD6F989
Copy CRC 2FD6F989
Accurately ripped (confidence 21) [29A8D84D] (AR v2)
Copy OK

Track 2

Filename C:\Users\Other\Desktop\eac test - 111\3\02 Brian Eno - Deep Blue Day.wav

Pre-gap length 0:00:01.28

Peak level 81.5 %
Extraction speed 2.3 X
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 23D9CBD3
Copy CRC 23D9CBD3
Accurately ripped (confidence 23) [F48209FB] (AR v2)
Copy OK

Track 3

Filename C:\Users\Other\Desktop\eac test - 111\3\03 Primal Scream - Trainspotting.wav

Peak level 90.9 %
Extraction speed 2.6 X
Track quality 99.9 %
Test CRC 92F2EADB
Copy CRC 92F2EADB
Accurately ripped (confidence 23) [06EE9F29] (AR v2)
Copy OK

Track 4

Filename C:\Users\Other\Desktop\eac test - 111\3\04 Sleeper - Atomic.wav

Pre-gap length 0:00:01.53

Peak level 92.5 %
Extraction speed 2.9 X
Track quality 99.9 %
Test CRC 6EF9F273
Copy CRC 6EF9F273
Accurately ripped (confidence 23) [13B12EE3] (AR v2)
Copy OK

Track 5

Filename C:\Users\Other\Desktop\eac test - 111\3\05 New Order - Temptation.wav

Pre-gap length 0:00:00.62

Peak level 88.3 %
Extraction speed 3.1 X
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 61F0961C
Copy CRC 61F0961C
Accurately ripped (confidence 23) [14F6AB18] (AR v2)
Copy OK

Track 6

Filename C:\Users\Other\Desktop\eac test - 111\3\06 Iggy Pop - Nightclubbing.wav

Pre-gap length 0:00:00.70

Peak level 90.0 %
Extraction speed 3.3 X
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 3D598BEA
Copy CRC 3D598BEA
Accurately ripped (confidence 23) [CCB07A0F] (AR v2)
Copy OK

Track 7

Filename C:\Users\Other\Desktop\eac test - 111\3\07 Blur - Sing.wav

Pre-gap length 0:00:01.15

Peak level 92.5 %
Extraction speed 3.5 X
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 8189155D
Copy CRC 8189155D
Accurately ripped (confidence 21) [750C7DFC] (AR v2)
Copy OK

Track 8

Filename C:\Users\Other\Desktop\eac test - 111\3\08 Lou Reed - Perfect Day.wav

Pre-gap length 0:00:00.53

Peak level 92.5 %
Extraction speed 3.5 X
Track quality 99.9 %
Test CRC C514730C
Copy CRC C514730C
Accurately ripped (confidence 23) [3377659A] (AR v2)
Copy OK

Track 9

Filename C:\Users\Other\Desktop\eac test - 111\3\09 Pulp - Mile End.wav

Pre-gap length 0:00:00.55

Peak level 92.4 %
Extraction speed 3.6 X
Track quality 99.9 %
Test CRC 284A9A3B
Copy CRC 284A9A3B
Accurately ripped (confidence 22) [5135A8CD] (AR v2)
Copy OK

Track 10

Filename C:\Users\Other\Desktop\eac test - 111\3\10 Bedrock feat. KYO - For What You
Dream Of.wav

Pre-gap length 0:00:01.25

Peak level 98.0 %
Extraction speed 3.9 X
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 5367541F
Copy CRC 5367541F
Accurately ripped (confidence 23) [2052828A] (AR v2)
Copy OK

Track 11

Filename C:\Users\Other\Desktop\eac test - 111\3\11 Elastica - 2-1.wav

Pre-gap length 0:00:01.13

Peak level 83.2 %
Extraction speed 4.0 X
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 1915CDBB
Copy CRC 1915CDBB
Accurately ripped (confidence 23) [9FE81541] (AR v2)
Copy OK

Track 12

Filename C:\Users\Other\Desktop\eac test - 111\3\12 Leftfield - A Final Hit.wav

Peak level 69.6 %
Extraction speed 4.0 X
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 62AA19BC
Copy CRC 62AA19BC
Accurately ripped (confidence 22) [912C3066] (AR v2)
Copy OK

Track 13

Filename C:\Users\Other\Desktop\eac test - 111\3\13 Underworld - Born Slippy.wav

Pre-gap length 0:00:00.40

Peak level 77.6 %
Extraction speed 4.1 X
Track quality 99.9 %
Test CRC FD4824A4
Copy CRC FD4824A4
Accurately ripped (confidence 22) [F64391A2] (AR v2)
Copy OK

Track 14

Filename C:\Users\Other\Desktop\eac test - 111\3\14 Damon Albarn - Closet Romantic.wav

Pre-gap length 0:00:01.13

Peak level 94.4 %
Extraction speed 4.3 X
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC DDC7B096
Copy CRC DDC7B096
Accurately ripped (confidence 22) [8B0B3F5B] (AR v2)
Copy OK


All tracks accurately ripped

No errors occurred

End of status report

@ db1989: I'm not sure if the gap detection is working well. I did do "detect gaps" in "actions" before the copying and it did fill in the "Gap" column.

@ greynol: I think the configuration wizard detected that my drive did not cache audio data but that was a few days ago so I'm not sure if I remember that correctly. The AccurateRip box is configurable unless I select the C2 option then it becomes greyed out (but it does stay checked).


P.S. apologies for the missing codebox but my attempt seems to not have worked. Also, it seems the log file lists the same info twice. Is that normal?

This post has been edited by greynol: May 29 2012, 22:48
Reason for edit: fixing codebox, removing redundant log and inserting a hard line breaks to fix horizontal scrolling problem
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- jaz012   Extracting FLAC files from CD with EAC   May 29 2012, 20:33
- - Ouroboros   1. You don't choose the bit rate with FLAC. It...   May 29 2012, 20:47
- - db1989   QUOTE (jaz012 @ May 29 2012, 20:33) 1. Th...   May 29 2012, 20:52
|- - greynol   QUOTE (db1989 @ May 29 2012, 12:52) Using...   May 29 2012, 21:00
- - jaz012   Thank you everyone for your speedy responses. I th...   May 29 2012, 21:41
|- - db1989   QUOTE (jaz012 @ May 29 2012, 21:41) Thank...   May 29 2012, 21:51
|- - greynol   Re. Blowfish: UGH!!! The author has r...   May 29 2012, 22:02
- - greynol   Copy tracks compressed (Shift + F5) Check Accurate...   May 29 2012, 21:51
- - db1989   I know you and others have questioned the guide, a...   May 29 2012, 22:12
- - greynol   Some of the TBD is covered here: http://wiki.hydro...   May 29 2012, 22:19
- - jaz012   I believe AR is set up as I could find "Send ...   May 29 2012, 22:22
|- - db1989   QUOTE (jaz012 @ May 29 2012, 22:22) @ db1...   May 29 2012, 22:36
- - greynol   Other than to show pregap information in the log f...   May 29 2012, 22:55
|- - db1989   QUOTE (greynol @ May 29 2012, 22:55) If y...   May 29 2012, 23:20
|- - greynol   QUOTE (db1989 @ May 29 2012, 15:20) Aren...   May 29 2012, 23:51
- - jaz012   @ db1989: It seems that each song takes about 3-5 ...   May 30 2012, 20:41
- - greynol   AccurateRip (AR) and accurate stream are two compl...   May 31 2012, 05:36
- - jaz012   Oops. Now I know why I was being so confusing with...   May 31 2012, 20:17
|- - greynol   Test and copy will always take twice as along as a...   May 31 2012, 20:58
|- - JJZolx   QUOTE (greynol @ May 31 2012, 13:58) I wo...   May 31 2012, 23:25
|- - pdq   QUOTE (JJZolx @ May 31 2012, 18:25) How d...   May 31 2012, 23:39
- - pdq   In case it has not been mentioned, you do not need...   May 31 2012, 20:40
- - Ouroboros   177 entries vs 23 presumably because 23 people hav...   May 31 2012, 23:52
|- - greynol   QUOTE (Ouroboros @ May 31 2012, 15:52) 15...   May 31 2012, 23:56
|- - JJZolx   QUOTE (greynol @ May 31 2012, 16:56) 177 ...   Jun 1 2012, 00:07
|- - greynol   QUOTE (JJZolx @ May 31 2012, 16:07) So yo...   Jun 1 2012, 00:18
- - jaz012   @ Greynol: I've done about 7 extractions with ...   Jun 1 2012, 21:32
- - greynol   I would continue to rip with C2 pointers, check AR...   Jun 1 2012, 22:29
- - jaz012   Ok. I think I am going to try out a few more disks...   Jun 3 2012, 21:29


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