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Words that are meaningless in the context of an audio review, A list of words which discredit a review by their inclusion
wakibaki
post May 6 2012, 02:40
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I've google searched for this list, but either my search criteria are bad or it isn't out there.

My apologies if this is not an original topic.

As the title says, I'm trying to compile a list of words that are employed by audio reviewers and forum pundits in their descriptions of the performance of equipment that don't actually convey anything useful.

A couple of words that have come to my attention recently are 'uninvolving' and 'fatigueing'. Both of these at first sight are characteristics that I wouldn't want my equipment to have, but on reflection they're so unspecific that I feel that the reviewer might just as well have said 'I don't like this equipment, but for no good reason I can put a name to'. Since the whole purpose of a review is to provide specific descriptions of equipment characteristics, I've come to feel that the inclusion of these words automatically discredits the reviewer

Another word I'm not too happy with is 'thin', but perhaps you don't share my view. Anyway, I'm going to leave it open to others now to make some contributions.

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post May 7 2012, 18:12
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To add to that, it's also a shame since sometimes two pieces of gear might actually sound different objectively.


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post May 7 2012, 20:35
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QUOTE (greynol @ May 7 2012, 19:12) *
To add to that, it's also a shame since sometimes two pieces of gear might actually sound different objectively.

In this case an objectivity wised reviewer can just take the right measurements (not a trivial task per se) and elaborate on the differences between them. Any further explanation, which anyway could be just unavoidable if the target audience is not strictly technical, is left to his expressive capabilities and communication skill, and words are just tools.


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post May 8 2012, 15:08
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QUOTE (Nessuno @ May 7 2012, 19:35) *
QUOTE (greynol @ May 7 2012, 19:12) *
To add to that, it's also a shame since sometimes two pieces of gear might actually sound different objectively.

In this case an objectivity wised reviewer can just take the right measurements (not a trivial task per se) and elaborate on the differences between them. Any further explanation, which anyway could be just unavoidable if the target audience is not strictly technical, is left to his expressive capabilities and communication skill, and words are just tools.


I am a little confused. In greynol's comment it appears that no descriptive word is necessary. However your post Nessuno you point out that some words are required to explain the objective difference. However what type of words should be used?
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- wakibaki   Words that are meaningless in the context of an audio review   May 6 2012, 02:40
- - Glenn Gundlach   Ask 10 people for their definition of 'muddy...   May 6 2012, 06:05
- - skamp   "analog sounding" (isn't everything ...   May 6 2012, 09:58
- - Speedskater   Way back in 1990, J. Gordon Holt wrote a 152 page ...   May 6 2012, 12:38
|- - wakibaki   QUOTE (Speedskater @ May 6 2012, 12:38) W...   May 6 2012, 20:37
- - stephan_g   This glossary? BTW, "euphoric" (excited...   May 6 2012, 17:47
|- - porky_pig_jr   QUOTE (stephan_g @ May 6 2012, 17:47) Thi...   May 7 2012, 04:33
|- - skamp   QUOTE (stephan_g @ May 6 2012, 18:47) BTW...   May 7 2012, 08:58
- - bug80   Another classic: danceable   May 6 2012, 22:04
|- - andy o   QUOTE (bug80 @ May 6 2012, 14:04) Another...   May 7 2012, 02:13
|- - PoisonDan   QUOTE (bug80 @ May 6 2012, 23:04) Another...   May 7 2012, 10:52
- - smok3   some of these: "Music had a vail lifted with ...   May 6 2012, 23:19
- - greynol   I think I remember that one. Wasn't it about s...   May 7 2012, 00:27
|- - wakibaki   QUOTE (greynol @ May 7 2012, 00:27) Waki,...   May 7 2012, 03:10
- - mzil   "Butterscotch"   May 7 2012, 00:51
- - knutinh   3-dimensionality   May 7 2012, 06:36
|- - Nessuno   QUOTE (knutinh @ May 7 2012, 07:36) 3-dim...   May 7 2012, 09:01
|- - Zarggg   QUOTE (Nessuno @ May 7 2012, 04:01) QUOTE...   May 7 2012, 15:31
||- - Nessuno   QUOTE (Zarggg @ May 7 2012, 16:31) QUOTE ...   May 7 2012, 17:28
|- - knutinh   QUOTE (Nessuno @ May 7 2012, 10:01) QUOTE...   May 9 2012, 13:09
- - ech3   Warm.   May 7 2012, 14:42
- - greynol   Two points can only define one dimension (two dime...   May 7 2012, 15:36
- - greynol   It was not an analogy; it was a clarification and ...   May 7 2012, 17:33
|- - Nessuno   QUOTE (greynol @ May 7 2012, 18:33) You d...   May 7 2012, 19:08
- - Woodinville   With the way that most audio equipment reviews are...   May 7 2012, 18:01
|- - Canar   QUOTE (Woodinville @ May 7 2012, 10:01) W...   May 11 2012, 19:21
- - greynol   To add to that, it's also a shame since someti...   May 7 2012, 18:12
|- - Nessuno   QUOTE (greynol @ May 7 2012, 19:12) To ad...   May 7 2012, 20:35
|- - icstm   QUOTE (Nessuno @ May 7 2012, 19:35) QUOTE...   May 8 2012, 15:08
|- - Nessuno   QUOTE (icstm @ May 8 2012, 16:08) I am a ...   May 8 2012, 17:57
- - ZAPNSPARK   The following words were collected from an actual ...   May 7 2012, 19:03
|- - Arnold B. Krueger   QUOTE (ZAPNSPARK @ May 7 2012, 14:03) The...   May 8 2012, 14:06
|- - krabapple   QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ May 8 2012, 09...   May 9 2012, 16:46
|- - Nessuno   Left alone all the considerations if a common thre...   May 10 2012, 08:49
|- - honestguv   QUOTE (Nessuno @ May 10 2012, 08:49) Now,...   May 10 2012, 14:38
|- - Nessuno   QUOTE (honestguv @ May 10 2012, 15:38) If...   May 10 2012, 16:54
|- - honestguv   QUOTE (Nessuno @ May 10 2012, 16:54) QUOT...   May 11 2012, 13:07
|- - Nessuno   QUOTE (honestguv @ May 11 2012, 14:07) I ...   May 11 2012, 21:57
|- - honestguv   QUOTE (Nessuno @ May 11 2012, 21:57) I ad...   May 14 2012, 14:30
|- - StephenPG   An old Simpsons song springs to mind... sorry... ...   May 14 2012, 14:50
- - ZAPNSPARK   I had posted that list of buzzwords on another for...   May 7 2012, 20:10
- - Ethan Winer   At the What's Best forum the other day, Barry ...   May 8 2012, 17:53
- - Carledwards   Audio reviews, unless limited to measurements and ...   May 9 2012, 00:18
- - greynol   Fluff words are also used by amatures in web forum...   May 9 2012, 16:32


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