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Richard Kimber
post Apr 10 2012, 15:25
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Virtually all the music I buy now comes in the form of downloaded flac files. These have no cue sheets with them.

Some of the music needs to be played gaplessly, and I'm under the impression that flac files + cue sheets is a solution to this. If this is so, can anyone recommend a linux program that would enable me to generate cue sheets from the flac files on my hard disk? I have seen software that creates cue files from music on a CD, but I can't find anything that does it from a folder of flac files on the hard disk.
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greynol
post Apr 13 2012, 15:47
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It's a shame that you seem to be held up by things you cannot hear, unless you are able to demonstrate that you can.

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Richard Kimber
post Apr 14 2012, 11:52
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QUOTE (greynol @ Apr 13 2012, 15:47) *
It's a shame that you seem to be held up by things you cannot hear, unless you are able to demonstrate that you can.

I'm not sure I understand this. I can detect a quality difference between the 16bit/44100 and 24bit/96000 files that I have. It's because I want to find out whether 192k makes any difference that I'm looking for an appropriate way to play the files. Having Airplay downgrade them to 16bit doesn't seems to me like a good way of doing this.
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Richard Kimber
post Apr 14 2012, 13:10
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QUOTE (greynol @ Apr 13 2012, 15:47) *
It's a shame that you seem to be held up by things you cannot hear, unless you are able to demonstrate that you can.


Actually, I support the aims of the document mentioned, in principle, though in the home environment it's hard to meet the requirements fully. I also think that the reproducibility requirement is formulated too strictly.
"If someone passes the test, others must check if this is possible, by passing the test in their turn." seems to imply that anyone must be able to pass the test, whereas I would only require people who have the same or better hearing abilities to pass the test. Also, some of the links in the FAQ need to be looked at. Linabx doesn't seem to be available, and the links to:
WinABX
FF123's samples For Testing Audio Codecs
ABC/Hidden Reference Audio Comparison Tool
Roberto's public listening tests page
are broken. I haven't checked all of them - maybe it's worth running the page through a linkchecker. I could do that if you wanted.

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post Apr 14 2012, 14:24
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QUOTE (Richard Kimber @ Apr 14 2012, 07:10) *
QUOTE (greynol @ Apr 13 2012, 15:47) *
It's a shame that you seem to be held up by things you cannot hear, unless you are able to demonstrate that you can.


Actually, I support the aims of the document mentioned, in principle, though in the home environment it's hard to meet the requirements fully. I also think that the reproducibility requirement is formulated too strictly.

I agree that the standards for what can be said here are sometimes a little too tight. With regard to audio quality, a rational approach is important, but this rationality shouldn't be applied absolutely.
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post Apr 14 2012, 16:37
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QUOTE (JimH @ Apr 14 2012, 06:24) *
I agree that the standards for what can be said here are sometimes a little too tight. With regard to audio quality, a rational approach is important, but this rationality shouldn't be applied absolutely.

The link was given so that the OP could learn about DBT. It was not given as a rule which should be applied absolutely. The one to be applied absolutely is #8 here. Whether you agree with it is not up for debate in this discussion. If you wish to express such a sentiment you can attempt to start a new topic. Further posts about it in this one will be binned. I hope I have made myself clear.

QUOTE (Richard Kimber @ Apr 14 2012, 03:52) *
I can detect a quality difference between the 16bit/44100 and 24bit/96000 files that I have.

If you are talking about audible sound quality, you are not allowed to make such a claim unless you also substantiate it with objective evidence per the rule I linked above. Do you have such evidence?

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QUOTE (greynol @ Apr 14 2012, 16:37) *
QUOTE (Richard Kimber @ Apr 14 2012, 03:52) *
I can detect a quality difference between the 16bit/44100 and 24bit/96000 files that I have.

If you are talking about audible sound quality, you are not allowed to make such a claim unless you also substantiate it with objective evidence per the rule I linked above. Do you have such evidence?

It would be helpful for me to read the objective support that others have submitted for their subjective statements about sound quality. Also it would be interesting to hear the test samples. Can you point me to some links?
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