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Gapless playback with a Linux DLNA server, was: "software to create cue files"
Richard Kimber
post Apr 10 2012, 15:25
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Virtually all the music I buy now comes in the form of downloaded flac files. These have no cue sheets with them.

Some of the music needs to be played gaplessly, and I'm under the impression that flac files + cue sheets is a solution to this. If this is so, can anyone recommend a linux program that would enable me to generate cue sheets from the flac files on my hard disk? I have seen software that creates cue files from music on a CD, but I can't find anything that does it from a folder of flac files on the hard disk.
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Wombat
post Apr 11 2012, 19:32
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I only repeated what i read on that review that claims the chipset used in the Pioneer is produced by Apple-Partner Bridgeco and this canīt play gapless. They may speak about DLNA usage canīt be gapless.
Maybe some iTunes interaction with the Airplay feature may be able to play perfectly gapless.
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post Apr 12 2012, 07:59
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QUOTE (Wombat @ Apr 11 2012, 20:32) *
I only repeated what i read on that review that claims the chipset used in the Pioneer is produced by Apple-Partner Bridgeco and this canīt play gapless. They may speak about DLNA usage canīt be gapless.
Maybe some iTunes interaction with the Airplay feature may be able to play perfectly gapless.


I may be wrong, but from the little I know about it, Airplay has nothing to do with DLNA: is not a file server system, simply a streaming protocol and as such has not the concept itself of "songs" and gap between them.

I'm not blaming it on you, of course, but today on the internet everybody and his dog has become a reviewer... wink.gif

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post Apr 12 2012, 14:29
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QUOTE (Nessuno @ Apr 12 2012, 07:59) *
I may be wrong, but from the little I know about it, Airplay has nothing to do with DLNA: is not a file server system, simply a streaming protocol and as such has not the concept itself of "songs" and gap between them.

Yes, the Airplay functions and normal DLNA music server functions seem to be quite separate on the device itself.
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post Apr 12 2012, 17:11
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QUOTE (Richard Kimber @ Apr 12 2012, 15:29) *
Yes, the Airplay functions and normal DLNA music server functions seem to be quite separate on the device itself.


By the way: just made a fast Google search and it seems that there is some AirPlay support on Linux via pulseaudio modules. If it works (can't try myself now as I haven't a Linux box at hand here at home), then you can use one of the many Linux gapless FLAC players and stream his output to the receiver.


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post Apr 13 2012, 15:23
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QUOTE (Nessuno @ Apr 12 2012, 17:11) *
By the way: just made a fast Google search and it seems that there is some AirPlay support on Linux via pulseaudio modules. If it works (can't try myself now as I haven't a Linux box at hand here at home), then you can use one of the many Linux gapless FLAC players and stream his output to the receiver.


Thanks. I don't know anything about Airplay. Does it handle 24bit 192kHz files?

Edit: Actually, I think I found the answer. As I now understand it Airplay is 16 bit and anything else is converted to 16 bit. That's no good to me unfortunately, since I want to deliver high res files to my DAC unsullied by the PC.

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post Apr 13 2012, 19:25
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QUOTE (Richard Kimber @ Apr 13 2012, 16:23) *
Edit: Actually, I think I found the answer. As I now understand it Airplay is 16 bit and anything else is converted to 16 bit.

Where have you got this information? Don't mistake protocol specifications with capability of single devices that implement it.
And even if, the tradeoff is between gapless and something you very very very very probably cannot hear!

Anyway, best that you can do is to have a try and verify if you hear any difference (and if you feel like reporting back us, please follow the rules greynol pointed you to wink.gif)



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- Richard Kimber   Gapless playback with a Linux DLNA server   Apr 10 2012, 15:25
- - Porcus   QUOTE (Richard Kimber @ Apr 10 2012, 16:2...   Apr 10 2012, 16:03
- - Dario   As far as I know, lossless formats are inherently ...   Apr 10 2012, 16:05
- - trout   FLAC, as most any lossless format, should playback...   Apr 10 2012, 16:12
- - greynol   Gapless playback is not a requirement of proper de...   Apr 10 2012, 16:27
|- - Richard Kimber   QUOTE (greynol @ Apr 10 2012, 16:27) Gapl...   Apr 10 2012, 18:00
||- - benski   QUOTE (Richard Kimber @ Apr 10 2012, 13:0...   Apr 10 2012, 18:15
|- - JimH   QUOTE (greynol @ Apr 10 2012, 10:27) Gapl...   Apr 11 2012, 15:23
|- - Richard Kimber   QUOTE (JimH @ Apr 11 2012, 15:23) When yo...   Apr 11 2012, 16:19
- - Richard Kimber   QUOTE (trout @ Apr 10 2012, 16:12) FLAC, ...   Apr 10 2012, 17:42
|- - trout   QUOTE (Richard Kimber) Some googling suggested tha...   Apr 10 2012, 18:05
|- - Richard Kimber   QUOTE (trout @ Apr 10 2012, 18:05) Maybe,...   Apr 10 2012, 18:53
- - JimH   I did a search for "gapless DLNA" and fo...   Apr 11 2012, 15:30
|- - Richard Kimber   QUOTE (JimH @ Apr 11 2012, 15:30) I did a...   Apr 11 2012, 16:13
- - Wombat   I have a network player myself and read some revie...   Apr 11 2012, 16:29
|- - Richard Kimber   QUOTE (Wombat @ Apr 11 2012, 16:29) I hav...   Apr 11 2012, 16:47
|- - Nessuno   QUOTE (Wombat @ Apr 11 2012, 17:29) canīt...   Apr 11 2012, 19:08
- - Wombat   Ops, you responded while i was editing my last ans...   Apr 11 2012, 16:50
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|- - Nessuno   QUOTE (Wombat @ Apr 11 2012, 20:32) I onl...   Apr 12 2012, 07:59
|- - Richard Kimber   QUOTE (Nessuno @ Apr 12 2012, 07:59) I ma...   Apr 12 2012, 14:29
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|- - Richard Kimber   QUOTE (greynol @ Apr 14 2012, 19:00) Feel...   Apr 14 2012, 21:09
|- - julf   QUOTE (Richard Kimber @ Apr 14 2012, 22:0...   Apr 15 2012, 10:51
|- - Nessuno   QUOTE (julf @ Apr 15 2012, 11:51) I guess...   Apr 15 2012, 11:47
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- - greynol   ...well, no, that was not ok.   Apr 16 2012, 16:34
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