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trail
post Mar 29 2012, 19:08
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Hey! I'm a newbie around these forums, but hopefully I'll be around quite a bit. I really like the community here, and hope I can contribute in the future. But enough introduction, here's the interesting stuff:

I work for a college radio station, and we've decided to undertake the rather ambitious project of digitizing the CDs we've acquired over the years. This is a pretty monumental undertaking, so I'm looking to make this as painless and quick as possible. We have a very rough approximation of about 30,000 CDs that we're looking to convert to digital files, and it's my job to work out many of the more technical aspects of the project.

The problem with being a college radio station is that we're on a pretty limited budget. We can't afford any sort of robot or anything like that to help the process along, nor can we afford any sort of service, so we're stuck doing it ourselves. Thankfully, we have a bunch of people willing to put the time and effort in. We also aren't terribly picky about getting every rip totally 100% perfect. But I've done a fair bit of research, and here's the kind of plan I had in mind:

Ideally, we have one pretty decent quad-core desktop that we're planning to outfit with four CD drives. We have software that allows us to rip multiple discs at once to V0 MP3s which are stored on a small RAID 1 array inside the computer. I've done some informal ripping tests, and have narrowed down the two pieces of software that seem to work best to fre:ac and dBpoweramp. I have also tried EAC and simply ripping with MediaMonkey, but freac and dBpoweramp seemed the most efficient and easy to use. Now, if I decide to use one of these pieces of software (if anyone has any suggestions, I'm 100% open to them!) how can I configure them to make them as painless as possible? Would using multiple drives be an option? I found very little information about software that provided ripping from multiple drives simultaneously, so I'm assuming this is not a common feature. If not, would using different computers be our best bet? If anyone has any other suggestions about ripping multiple discs at the same time or other ways to improve efficiency then that would probably make my life much easier.

thanks for your time!
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LosMintos
post Apr 2 2012, 15:48
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QUOTE (spoon @ Mar 30 2012, 17:41) *
The last R14.2 release should have eliminated this possibility, how ever for true multi drive ripping Batch Ripper was designed for that operation (and has been in use 24/7 for the last 4 years by the largest commercial ripping companies out there).
I never experienced problems with multiple instances (neither dBpoweramp nor EAC). But, just to point it out, would you recommend Batch Ripper even for ordinary PCs with two or three drives? Or is it exclusively bundled with extra hardware?

QUOTE (trail @ Mar 30 2012, 18:44) *
Then it's just the issue of "how do we back up and make 10TB of data network accessible on the budget of a college radio station?"
Yeah, it's a matter of cost. But, if you do not insist in quite and most energy-saving technology, you'll get 10 TB rather cheap (except hdd's itself, maybe). And, keep in mind, that you don't have to start with 10 TB. You can add HDDs later along with the ripping progress.

QUOTE (trail @ Mar 30 2012, 18:44) *
but the folders for different types of music is an excellent idea. We get lots of promo material and compilation albums so it's probably a good idea to separate the music into broad categories.

Here's the example folder hierarchy I was thinking of:
\Library\Category\Artist\Album (ID number we add when we get it)\Track number. Artist - Title

or for a real-life example:
Library\Full Albums\Modeselektor\Monkeytown (30458)\04. Modeselektor - Evil Twin.flac
My approach is similar. When it comes to artist's names or titles with exotic characters, you might want to rename/sanitize your folder names. Especially, when you work multiplatform (Linux file server, Windows Client). However, if you don't care so much, you could also use your ID number, probably structured: $left(%ID Number%, 2) / $left(%ID Number%, 3) / %ID Number% / %track% = %artist% = %title%.flac.

QUOTE (trail @ Mar 30 2012, 18:44) *
It just seems like the biggest hurdle now is to store and back up all these terabytes of data we're going to create by going lossless and still make them accessible to the other computers on our local network.
Again, you don't have to provide the full disk space _now_.
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- trail   Help ripping ~30,000 CDs   Mar 29 2012, 19:08
- - frozenspeed   I would use cueripper & foobar2000 but that...   Mar 29 2012, 19:11
|- - trail   QUOTE (frozenspeed @ Mar 29 2012, 13:11) ...   Mar 29 2012, 19:13
- - Dario   What about the dBpoweramp batch ripper? Is there a...   Mar 29 2012, 19:23
|- - garym   QUOTE (Dario @ Mar 29 2012, 13:23) What a...   Mar 29 2012, 21:50
|- - Roseval   You might try running multiple instances of dbPowe...   Mar 29 2012, 22:06
||- - trail   QUOTE (Roseval @ Mar 29 2012, 17:06) You ...   Mar 29 2012, 22:24
|- - trail   QUOTE (garym @ Mar 29 2012, 16:50) QUOTE ...   Mar 29 2012, 22:36
- - DVDdoug   QUOTE Ideally, we have one pretty decent quad-core...   Mar 29 2012, 23:33
|- - trail   QUOTE (DVDdoug @ Mar 29 2012, 18:33) QUOT...   Mar 30 2012, 01:52
- - Destroid   OP: I would concur with others to consider lossles...   Mar 30 2012, 00:08
- - dumdidum   i second the suggestion of ripping to a lossless f...   Mar 30 2012, 08:56
- - Porcus   I ripped about 7000 CDs to FLAC using dBpoweramp, ...   Mar 30 2012, 10:07
- - LosMintos   Sorry, I didn't read all posts carefully, neve...   Mar 30 2012, 14:28
|- - Porcus   QUOTE (LosMintos @ Mar 30 2012, 15:28) Yo...   Mar 30 2012, 16:38
- - pdq   On the cost of storing lossless files - consider t...   Mar 30 2012, 16:40
- - spoon   >My experience with dBpoweramp is that it might...   Mar 30 2012, 16:41
- - trail   First off, I want to say thanks so much to everyon...   Mar 30 2012, 17:44
|- - Porcus   QUOTE (trail @ Mar 30 2012, 18:44) If at ...   Mar 30 2012, 20:23
|- - trail   Bad news, our budget means we probably won't b...   Apr 2 2012, 01:42
|- - phofman   QUOTE (trail @ Apr 2 2012, 01:42) Bad new...   Apr 2 2012, 11:05
|- - phofman   My experience with those SiliconImage SATA control...   Apr 2 2012, 11:22
|- - Destroid   QUOTE (trail @ Apr 2 2012, 00:42) Bad new...   Apr 4 2012, 11:54
|- - trail   QUOTE (Destroid @ Apr 4 2012, 06:54) QUOT...   Apr 5 2012, 20:41
|- - shadowking   QUOTE (Destroid @ Apr 4 2012, 21:54) QUOT...   Apr 6 2012, 15:50
- - .hx   Little side note - CD ripping is not digitizing.   Apr 2 2012, 03:06
- - spoon   Word of advice, if you want a stress free life, st...   Apr 2 2012, 09:49
- - Porcus   Since this is turning into a discussion of storage...   Apr 2 2012, 14:57
|- - rick.hughes   QUOTE (Porcus @ Apr 2 2012, 09:57) - RAID...   Apr 2 2012, 15:40
|- - phofman   We have been using linux raid in our company for a...   Apr 2 2012, 15:57
|- - Porcus   QUOTE (phofman @ Apr 2 2012, 16:57) the r...   Apr 3 2012, 16:29
- - LosMintos   QUOTE (spoon @ Mar 30 2012, 17:41) The la...   Apr 2 2012, 15:48
- - krabapple   Nothing to add except again: go lossless if you c...   Apr 2 2012, 16:30
- - pdq   For backup I would suggest AudioSAFE. If you never...   Apr 2 2012, 16:39
|- - garym   QUOTE (pdq @ Apr 2 2012, 10:39) For backu...   Apr 2 2012, 22:25
|- - Jan S.   QUOTE (garym @ Apr 2 2012, 22:25) QUOTE (...   Apr 3 2012, 10:42
|- - Nessuno   QUOTE (Jan S. @ Apr 3 2012, 11:42) If the...   Apr 3 2012, 17:52
- - rick.hughes   The original CDs could also be considered the back...   Apr 2 2012, 19:12
|- - phofman   QUOTE (rick.hughes @ Apr 2 2012, 19:12) T...   Apr 2 2012, 19:25
- - spoon   Your deletions are kept on audiosafe (the last cha...   Apr 3 2012, 19:33
- - mixminus1   @Destroid: Yes, the OP's budget is limited, a...   Apr 5 2012, 21:06
|- - trail   QUOTE (mixminus1 @ Apr 5 2012, 16:06) @De...   Apr 9 2012, 04:20
- - JJZolx   If the budget is so limited that the station can...   Apr 6 2012, 01:43
- - Porcus   OK, so OP cannot afford drives enough for lossless...   Apr 7 2012, 02:58
- - gorob   I second dbpoweramp as well, it works great for ri...   Mar 11 2014, 03:16
- - JJZolx   I wonder how this project turned out. Or if it eve...   Mar 11 2014, 04:01
- - eahm   30,000 discs...I can't even imagine that many,...   Mar 11 2014, 05:43
|- - Porcus   QUOTE (eahm @ Mar 11 2014, 05:43) It must...   Mar 11 2014, 08:44
- - kennedyb4   Hi. I would like to add my advice to those suggest...   Mar 11 2014, 13:10
- - yourlord   This thread is 2 years old and the original poster...   Mar 11 2014, 18:23
- - eahm   QUOTE (Porcus @ Mar 11 2014, 00:44) Yep -...   Mar 11 2014, 23:46


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