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pinkfloydeffect
post Mar 24 2012, 23:41
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I have some audio FLAC CDs in single track format with a CUE file. I read the best way to split up the tracks is with CUETools, but I don't know which audio output (encoder?) to use. There are four options:

libFlake, libFLAC, flake & FLACCL

Can anyone explain what the difference(s) are please?

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pinkfloydeffect
post Mar 25 2012, 17:55
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I see I see, is this why when I open FLAC files in VLC the first few seconds of the song are cut off sometimes? If you REplay it the first few seconds will be there, and foobar seems to "fade" the first few seconds.

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post Mar 25 2012, 22:38
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QUOTE (pinkfloydeffect @ Mar 25 2012, 18:55) *
I see I see, is this why when I open FLAC files in VLC the first few seconds of the song are cut off sometimes? If you REplay it the first few seconds will be there, and foobar seems to "fade" the first few seconds.

No audio codec should ever cause such behaviour. FLAC is one of the most mature codecs out there (as are fb2k and VLC in their respective departments), so it's definitely you doing something wrong.

I really suggest that you search a bit regarding how codecs work.

QUOTE (pinkfloydeffect @ Mar 25 2012, 23:28) *
ALSO, the bar above "Go' that says 0-8 is that compression/quality/priority? Best quality 0 or 8? lol

It's the level of compression. Higher values result in higher compression (lower file size), but slower encoding speed.
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pinkfloydeffect
post Mar 25 2012, 22:50
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Thanks! So either way it's not about quality it's about compression I understand now, so with that being said, my library of FLAC "tracks" (non CUE) could all technically be opened and the tracks/FLAC files re-written in level 8 compression mode with no quality loss of "re-compressing" ?? Sounds worth my time to me if so!

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post Mar 26 2012, 07:24
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QUOTE (pinkfloydeffect @ Mar 25 2012, 22:50) *
and the tracks/FLAC files re-written in level 8 compression mode with no quality loss of "re-compressing" ??

Yes, but you should do a backup. If there is an error while overwriting, your file could be damaged.

If you want to recompress, then a good advise would be to (I) make sure the backup is synced first, (II) convert from set #1 to set #2, (III) when done, use e.g. foobar's bit-compare to verify that they contain the same audio signal.


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- pinkfloydeffect   What differences among CUETools outputs? libFlake/libFLAC/flake/FLACCL   Mar 24 2012, 23:41
- - pablogm123   Check these links: www.cuetools.net/wiki/CUETools...   Mar 25 2012, 02:19
- - Porcus   QUOTE (pinkfloydeffect @ Mar 24 2012, 23...   Mar 25 2012, 02:25
- - pinkfloydeffect   Thanks guys! I'm not worried about speed I...   Mar 25 2012, 02:40
|- - Kohlrabi   QUOTE (pinkfloydeffect @ Mar 25 2012, 02...   Mar 25 2012, 03:12
|- - pinkfloydeffect   Wait...so my FLAC audio player extracts the song f...   Mar 25 2012, 04:06
|- - GenjuroXL   QUOTE (pinkfloydeffect @ Mar 25 2012, 05...   Mar 25 2012, 09:20
|- - lvqcl   QUOTE (pinkfloydeffect @ Mar 25 2012, 07...   Mar 25 2012, 10:34
- - pablogm123   I own a very ancient PC (A secondary retro PC I bu...   Mar 25 2012, 10:55
- - pinkfloydeffect   I see I see, is this why when I open FLAC files in...   Mar 25 2012, 17:55
|- - Dario   QUOTE (pinkfloydeffect @ Mar 25 2012, 18...   Mar 25 2012, 22:38
|- - pinkfloydeffect   Thanks! So either way it's not about quali...   Mar 25 2012, 22:50
|- - Porcus   QUOTE (pinkfloydeffect @ Mar 25 2012, 22...   Mar 26 2012, 07:24
|- - pinkfloydeffect   Thank You   Mar 27 2012, 04:57
- - pinkfloydeffect   ALSO, the bar above "Go' that says 0-8 is...   Mar 25 2012, 22:28
- - tpijag   once again, lossless is lossless. Before getting t...   Mar 25 2012, 22:57
- - pablogm123   QUOTE "and foobar seems to "fade" t...   Mar 25 2012, 23:17
|- - pinkfloydeffect   It seems to run pretty fast in level 8 for me, I h...   Mar 25 2012, 23:35
- - pablogm123   You can get better perfomance if you use a convert...   Mar 25 2012, 23:47
- - Chinch   Exactly. So here is to sum up what everyone has sa...   Mar 27 2012, 11:08
|- - Porcus   QUOTE (Chinch @ Mar 27 2012, 11:08) the g...   Mar 27 2012, 11:31
|- - Chinch   QUOTE (Porcus @ Mar 27 2012, 06:31) QUOTE...   Mar 27 2012, 17:40
|- - Porcus   QUOTE (Chinch @ Mar 27 2012, 18:40) I...   Mar 27 2012, 20:31
|- - Chinch   I see, this is can meet more with you on. Definite...   Mar 27 2012, 21:26
|- - Porcus   QUOTE (Chinch @ Mar 27 2012, 22:26) I was...   Mar 27 2012, 22:40
|- - Chinch   Since you are a foobar2000 user, I am making the g...   Mar 28 2012, 04:56
- - pinkfloydeffect   Wow those are some lengthy detailed posts there Ch...   Mar 28 2012, 03:38
- - Porcus   Re your concern about a newer FLAC build; I knew I...   Mar 29 2012, 08:24
|- - pinkfloydeffect   QUOTE (Porcus @ Mar 29 2012, 03:24) Re yo...   Mar 29 2012, 23:23
|- - Porcus   QUOTE (pinkfloydeffect @ Mar 30 2012, 00...   Mar 31 2012, 14:28
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