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Composer Tagging: The Best Method?, Moved from CD Hardware/Software
Antigen
post Mar 14 2012, 20:28
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Hi,

my question is very simple.

Some CD Songs have two or three COMPOSER, when I use my CD Ripper I can include the information of the COMPOSER TAG into the FLAC file.

What do you suggest for SEPARATOR?

----> / (for example Carmichel / Washington)

or

----> , (for example Carmichel, Washington)


What is the better solution, for compatibility and other possible issue? What is the better solution for the MP3 Player tagging management system? (or is indifferent)

Thanks very much


P.S: I have see that FREEDB use , and MusicBrainz use the /
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southisup
post Mar 16 2012, 21:46
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I've always been confused by multi-value tagging & have ended up avoiding it as a result - I just always use commas now, because no software (that I've come across) recognises those as seperators.

The problem is multiple.
  1. Different formats allow different fields to be or not to be multi-value.
  2. Different software allow different formats to have different multi-value fields.
  3. Different tagging software recognise different characters as indicators that you intend multi-values.
  4. Different players display multi-value fields in different ways - seperate rows, single forward slash, double back slash, semi-colon...
  5. Different library managers handle multi-value fields differently - combined listing, seperate listings, both...


It's the sort of problem sometimes 'solved' with one of those huge wikipedia comparison tables, which possibly have all the information in, but hardly anyone can even fit on their screen, let alone actually get their heads around.

Or have I been psychologically damaged by an early experience, & someone will come along now & make it all seem simple?

Don't get me wrong, this discussion has helped. A lot. Thanks! But I still don't think I'm about to start using them. I guess one thing that would greatly help me would be a way to quickly see (in foobar2000, for me) which tracks have multi-value fields, & which tags they are. Then I could experiment & get to grips with it in my own time.

And am I mixing fields & tags up?

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post Mar 16 2012, 22:40
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QUOTE (southisup @ Mar 16 2012, 20:46) *
I guess one thing that would greatly help me would be a way to quickly see (in foobar2000, for me) which tracks have multi-value fields, & which tags they are.
Use $meta_num(field).
For example:
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$ifgreater($meta_num(field),0,$ifgreater($meta_num(field),1,%field% has multiple values,%field% has a single value),%field% is absent)

QUOTE (southisup @ Mar 16 2012, 20:46) *
And am I mixing fields & tags up?
A tag is the entire block of metadata. A field is one piece of information therein.
However, many people and sources (some of whom should know better!) do get the two mixed up, often using the word tag to refer to a single field.

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post Mar 20 2012, 11:46
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QUOTE (db1989 @ Mar 17 2012, 08:40) *
For example:
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$ifgreater($meta_num(field),0,$ifgreater($meta_num(field),1,%field% has multiple values,%field% has a single value),%field% is absent)
Thanks. I haven't figured out how to use this, but it did prompt me to look through my notes & find I cracked this once before, when fixing some comments doubled up by another bit of software I tried. This works for me as a library filter:
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"$meta_num(artist)" GREATER 1
Where would I use your example?

QUOTE (db1989 @ Mar 17 2012, 08:40) *
A tag is the entire block of metadata. A field is one piece of information therein.
Thanks!
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- Antigen   Composer Tagging: The Best Method?   Mar 14 2012, 20:28
- - lvqcl   IIRC flac uses vorbis comment system. QUOTE (http...   Mar 14 2012, 20:38
|- - Antigen   QUOTE (lvqcl @ Mar 14 2012, 20:38) IIRC f...   Mar 14 2012, 20:43
- - tpijag   QUOTE Field names are not required to be unique Ar...   Mar 14 2012, 20:50
- - Antigen   Sorry but I don't understand I have see that ...   Mar 14 2012, 20:54
|- - db1989   QUOTE (Antigen @ Mar 14 2012, 19:54) COMP...   Mar 14 2012, 21:07
- - eahm   This is weird, I've just tested the file with ...   Mar 14 2012, 21:07
- - db1989   Actually, AFAIK, that's just what Mp3tag uses....   Mar 14 2012, 21:13
- - eahm   The "\\" was tested just with ...   Mar 14 2012, 21:22
- - Antigen   I have see this that iTunes (/) for separation of ...   Mar 14 2012, 21:24
- - spoon   Although dBpoweramp shows ';' it is a way ...   Mar 14 2012, 22:32
- - eahm   dBpoweramp shows ";" but it's a ...   Mar 15 2012, 01:00
- - tpijag   Are you really correcting spoon as to how it dbpow...   Mar 15 2012, 01:12
- - eahm   I am just saying that the way Windows Details and ...   Mar 15 2012, 01:40
|- - smz   eahm, you must understand that the separator used ...   Mar 15 2012, 04:46
- - eahm   Thank you for explaining further, I am just always...   Mar 15 2012, 05:08
- - db1989   slz, thanks for concentrating into one post what I...   Mar 15 2012, 20:52
|- - smz   You're welcome, db1989, and thank-you! ...   Mar 15 2012, 22:02
- - db1989   Oops   Mar 15 2012, 22:03
- - southisup   I've always been confused by multi-value taggi...   Mar 16 2012, 21:46
- - db1989   QUOTE (southisup @ Mar 16 2012, 20:46) I ...   Mar 16 2012, 22:40
- - southisup   QUOTE (db1989 @ Mar 17 2012, 08:40) For e...   Mar 20 2012, 11:46


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