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squallkiercosa
post Mar 10 2012, 16:25
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Why I am not interested in buying cds anymore?

Dear all of you:


Iíve been looking (for long) for a good reason, an explanation to my behavior. I've often felt guilty about not buying the albums of bands I absolutely love. There is no use for the physical albums in my opinion, I already have good quality downloads and never plays cd's anyway, only mp3's.

First, I think I should start with a background:
I am 26 right now; I lived in Russia, Venezuela, France and nowadays in Switzerland. I moved often, so moving discs all the time were not an option when it comes to travel.

My dad and my brother are audiophiles, both have tons of music (each with a particular style) I grew up seeing them buying music all the time. Fortunately for me, it never bothered me, perhaps classical music Saturday early in the morningÖ but, even when I did not want to listen it, it was never a problem.
I had some friends mixing records (they keep doing it) I learned the difference between house, D&B, acid with them. I tried to mix too, but I found myself playing the same records over and over again.

I must admit I am guilty of downloading. When I discovered Internet, I was a naive young innocent. I was downloading to find interesting stuffs. Whenever I liked something, I would go to the shop and buy the CD. Now, itís convenient to get a song of the net. It is simple and fast. I rarely buy new CDs anymore, and only to convert it to mp3 and then give it to someone else like a gift.

People are not spending in music like before I guess. I ask every time the same question: how often do you buy music these days. Maybe they are spending their money on video games, computers or expensive mobile phones instead. Apparently it seems to be more important the device than music itself.
Also, there is so much music flooding the market; Is really people mad because of the industry and that they don't want to buy music anymore?

I am already used to get the music so easily, no regrets (when it comes to popular music), I donít feel I am stealing for anyone if I download bad music and end up erasing it later.

If I grew up listening and buying records and I am not motivated to buy it anymore. What is it going to happen with the future generation?


Sincerely,




P.S. Changing the subject:
I am also tired of lossless and lossy formats; the difference is not so noticeable with all the styles. So is it worth it to save some music in lossless and others in lossy? Nope.
I was struggling to convert my music to lossless, then I realized it was much easier to find all my music already converted to Flac online, and thatís what I did. I stopped for convenience and frustration, finding the codecs to make lossless work with my iPod, my cellphone, my notebook senseless.
Nowadays I keep my music in mp3 for commodity
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[JAZ]
post Mar 11 2012, 13:33
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Even thought there is an illegal side on the opening post, I would like this thread to continue on the distribution and consumption of music today as opposed to before year 2000. I think that the original poster had this in mind, and I find it interesting for us.
(Note: I haven't bought, neither downloaded music since 2008. I just listen to internet radio stations).

- First: There's clearly the singles vs album issue.
One could say that there are genres where albums are more important, but overall, albums are becoming something for a collectionist.
I don't remember having bought an album of an artist ever. I used to buy Mixed CDs (as in Various Artists, not necessarily mixed songs. I like dance, trance, house..).
Generally speaking, the industry made us consumists in this regard, so it was only worth to buy albums made of "bests songs of...".
Mixed CDs where the way to get singles before downloading existed, and today it is generally superceeded by single downloads. Said that, Mixed CDs are still the way to get popular tracks without having to search them.

- Second: The distribution and storage method issue.
People is less aware of what he has if there isn't a physical contact with it. When having music just in digital form, there is only a number representing it (or a list, or a tree view). The good part is that there isn't generally a problem of space, transportation, damage in use,...
It is true that a hard drive is more prone get damaged than a collection of cds and Vinyls, and as such, I believe that the only real way there is to maintain it is on the Cloud. Something on the lines of AudioSafe and a mixture with iTunes Match.

The problem is that this is usually against labels' interests, because then, they cannot sell the same content again and again (See what I said above about consumism).

- Third: the owning vs licensing issue.
Once we buy a CD, we don't own the content, we are just given some rights about it.
It is obvious that we shouldn't get rights to take ownership of it, and it is reasonable to say that we cannot modify it and sell as our own. (But then, there are the countless remixes and "you copied my xxx" cases).
It is reasonable that if a radio station buys it, it needs to pay for a different license than a consumer, since that is a commercial use of the songs.

It starts not to be reasonable when you are a bar (as in snack bar, not as in music bar), a hairdresser/barbershop, or other similar business and you are required to pay for having music or the TV (yes, even the TV) in the background.

And it gets worse when you even get to pay additionally for the music played on your wedding.
<irony on>
Spain is different...
<irony off>

Of course, the industry even tried to say that making an MP3 of your CDs to hear it on your digital player, while the CD could be heard by someone else was also not permitted.

Ideally, what I would be interested as an user is a mixed mode, where I could buy some songs, while I would have access to listen to others for an amount (not necessarily a monthly plan, but neither something that would make buying songs the better solution).


I sincerely don't have the necessity to buy music anymore. (It helps that I don't go out to party much anymore so I am not as aware of new songs). As I said above, I mostly listen to radio stations and sometimes I listen to the older songs I have (remembering the good times I lived).

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- - squallkiercosa   [JAZ] Thanks for your comment, Is good to see peop...   Mar 11 2012, 14:27
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