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Is it best to burn cds straight to flac?
keenly
post Mar 9 2012, 15:06
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I have tried burning to wav, wma and my ONKYO 6 disc changer wont play the WAV at all even though my sony blu ray will.

I have cdburnerxp which can burn straight to flac; would this be the best bet for cd rs to play on cd player?

I mean albums already stored as flac of course(not mp3 to flac)
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post Mar 9 2012, 15:26
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A bit hard to tell what you are actually doing, so this is merely a guess: You are burning a data CD with files (WAV, WMA and now suggested, FLAC). Right?
An audio CD is something different. It is not such a kind of file, in fact not even such a kind of file system. The Onkyo wants an audio CD, not a data CD with audio in the data. Big difference.

Some players can read data CDs though (maybe all BluRay players can, I don't know) and they may or may not be equipped with the codec in question.


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post Mar 9 2012, 15:26
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Do you mean you're trying to burn audio CDs?

It sounds like you're burning data CDs with audio files on,

Make sure you select 'Audio CD' when you create the CD.

Edit: Porcus beat me by seconds wink.gif

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post Mar 9 2012, 15:42
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Assuming you really do want to burn a data disc and your CD player is capable of playing it, the most commonly supported codec will be MP3 or AAC. Copy your MP3 files to CD-R just as they are and convert everything else to MP3 V2 and you'll be good to go. Organize it all in folders by [ARTIST\ALBUM\TWO-DIGIT_TRACK - TITLE.mp3] and it will be easy to navigate.

If your CD player is not capable of playing data discs, use Burrn to easily create standard audio CD-Rs from practically any music file format.
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post Mar 9 2012, 19:58
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QUOTE (Porcus @ Mar 9 2012, 15:26) *
A bit hard to tell what you are actually doing, so this is merely a guess: You are burning a data CD with files (WAV, WMA and now suggested, FLAC). Right?
An audio CD is something different. It is not such a kind of file, in fact not even such a kind of file system. The Onkyo wants an audio CD, not a data CD with audio in the data. Big difference.

Some players can read data CDs though (maybe all BluRay players can, I don't know) and they may or may not be equipped with the codec in question.



Hi i mean strictly AUDIO albums.

I burned zeppelins Hoth to WAV from cd burnerxp; it plays on my blu ray but the Onkyo cd player wont play it at all.
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post Mar 9 2012, 20:09
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You may call them AUDIO all you like, but if, as you say, you are burning wav files to a cd, they are data cd's not audio. As already explained it is not uncommon that one of your hardware players is choking on them. Burn them as audio and they will play.

There is a huge amount of information on this available via search and likely within the wiki.

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post Mar 9 2012, 20:27
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QUOTE (tpijag @ Mar 9 2012, 20:09) *
You may call them AUDIO all you like, but if, as you say, you are burning wav files to a cd, they are data cd's not audio. As already explained it is not uncommon that one of your hardware players is choking on them. Burn them as audio and they will play.

There is a huge amount of information on this available via search and likely within the wiki.


I burnt them as AUDIO discs via cd burnerxp
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post Mar 9 2012, 20:35
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QUOTE (keenly @ Mar 9 2012, 20:27) *
I burnt them as AUDIO discs via cd burnerxp


When you put the CD in a computer and list the directory (like, in Windows, dir D: or whatever the drive letter is -- open a command window first with Winkey-R cmd Enter), does it show filenames or does it show Track01.cda?

If the latter ... is your CD player ... how much would it have to be, ten to fifteen years or older? Since CD-R is a newer medium than CD, then back in the stone age, there were quite a few CD players that couldn't digest the moonshine.




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post Mar 9 2012, 20:36
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QUOTE (keenly @ Mar 9 2012, 14:27) *
QUOTE (tpijag @ Mar 9 2012, 20:09) *
You may call them AUDIO all you like, but if, as you say, you are burning wav files to a cd, they are data cd's not audio. As already explained it is not uncommon that one of your hardware players is choking on them. Burn them as audio and they will play.

There is a huge amount of information on this available via search and likely within the wiki.


I burnt them as AUDIO discs via cd burnerxp



If you put one of these disks into your computer, what type of file do you see on it?
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post Mar 9 2012, 20:39
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I burned zeppelins Hoth to WAV from cd burnerxp

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burnt them as AUDIO discs via cd burnerx


Please try and be a little clearer with the information you provide. The above two quotes are two different tasks.
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post Mar 9 2012, 20:56
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QUOTE (tpijag @ Mar 9 2012, 20:39) *
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I burned zeppelins Hoth to WAV from cd burnerxp

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burnt them as AUDIO discs via cd burnerx


Please try and be a little clearer with the information you provide. The above two quotes are two different tasks.


Hi I burnt AN AUDIO CD THAT WAS WAV to cd r. It does not play on my cd player but will on blu ray.

The album was ripped as wav lossless and burnt as wav. I didn;t change anything. Played fine on my technics all in one hi fi but not my onkyo cd player.
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post Mar 9 2012, 21:11
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Data CD with WAV audio files is not a Red Book AudioCD.
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post Mar 9 2012, 21:11
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headbang.gif

I give up.
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post Mar 9 2012, 21:20
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QUOTE (keenly @ Mar 9 2012, 14:56) *
Hi I burnt AN AUDIO CD THAT WAS WAV to cd r. It does not play on my cd player but will on blu ray.


Since it doesn't play on a CD player, and CD players can play audio CDs, I'm going to guess you didn't burn it as an audio CD.

I still suggest putting it into your computer and checking what actually ended up on the disk to be sure though.

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post Mar 9 2012, 22:14
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Did you catch the fact that most older CD players will not play CD-R disks, regardless of the format of the material written to them? They will only play pressed audio CD disks.

How old is old? I don't recall when CD-R for home use became common, perhaps sometimes in the 90s. Before that, audio CD players were not made to be able to play CD-R; home made CD-R audio CDs just didn't exist, the specifications to manufacturer CD players that handle them did not exist. Any blu ray player is a different story. The CD-R specs were already ancient history before the first such player was conceived.
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post Mar 9 2012, 23:01
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OP wasn't very clear in this thread, but this
QUOTE (keenly @ Mar 9 2012, 20:27) *
I burnt them as AUDIO discs via cd burnerxp

suggests that he did in fact burn them as audio CDs.

My money is on CD-R incompatibility, as was suggested. Especially if the CD player is older.
Could be also that it's not CD-R incompatibility in general, but an issue of burning speed or something. So perhaps try with a lower speed or a different brand of CD-Rs.. maybe even with different burning software (although I've never had problems with CDburnerXP).
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post Mar 9 2012, 23:58
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QUOTE (AndyH-ha @ Mar 9 2012, 16:14) *
Did you catch the fact that most older CD players will not play CD-R disks, regardless of the format of the material written to them? They will only play pressed audio CD disks.


I didn't miss that, its just not true in my experience. I used to burn lots of disks back in the 90s when CDRs were rare. I paid quite a lot of money for a 2X burner when they were new. Even then, it was relatively rare to find a device that wouldn't read a disk. 15 years later I consider it downright unlikely.

As I said before, I'm guessing its not a real audio CD, and as before I recommend verifying that smile.gif
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