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World's First Flash Based MPC Player
c.b.2000
post May 13 2003, 04:58
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Our new design Flash Base Player will release June or July in China.

1.Play mp3,wma,mpc,ogg vorbis(limited)
2.32 bit ARM decoder + good DAC, 100db SNR
3.5 band EQ
4.USB Mass Storage
5.FM 76-108MHz
6.Voice and FM recorder
7.LRC or lyrics3 v2
8.Text reader
9.Multi Task

todo
1.directory play and custom playlist
2.mpc and ogg vorbis seek
3.QSound effect
4.Text reader bookmark
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post May 13 2003, 05:04
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I'll buy it, I'll buy it! Will it clean house, too? tongue.gif Sounds super and I am looking forward to seeing it. Good luck. biggrin.gif


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post May 13 2003, 06:10
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would you be able to export to the U.S.?
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Joseph
post May 13 2003, 06:55
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aren't mpc's rather large to be put on a flashbased device?
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post May 13 2003, 07:10
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This sounds great!

Can't wait to find out more info smile.gif

Btw, any chance of the player reading Ape2 tags and Vorbis comments?
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c.b.2000
post May 13 2003, 07:24
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support Id3v1v2, ape tag v1v2, Vorbis comment, can display title,artist and albulm

for chinese version firmware, only ascii and chinese char can be display.
current only iso8859-1 and chinese version firmware.
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post May 13 2003, 07:25
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What is(are) the storage space(s)?

And, if it's big, do you plan to support lossless?

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c.b.2000
post May 13 2003, 07:28
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first 128MB, cost < RMB 1500
also has a Smart Media Card slot, so 256MB max now
not big enough to support lossless.
when we consider 512MB, lossless will be considered also.

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post May 13 2003, 07:52
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ohmy.gif (w00t) happy.gif wub.gif


I just didn't know what to say smile.gif


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post May 13 2003, 08:16
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QUOTE (c.b.2000 @ May 13 2003 - 06:28 AM)
cost < RMB 1500

Tuesday, May 13, 2003
1,500 Chinese Yuan Renminbi = 156.999 Euro
1,500 Chinese Yuan Renminbi = 238.073 Swiss Franc
1,500 Chinese Yuan Renminbi = 181.444 US Dollar


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post May 13 2003, 09:49
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OMG I want it NOW NOW NOW !!! (w00t)

Will it ever be available in Europe ?

Do you plan on releasing a CD or HD based player with OGG or MPC support too ?


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post May 13 2003, 11:12
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Sweeeeet!!!
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n68
post May 13 2003, 11:40
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yup...


just the thing am been waiting for... biggrin.gif

btw.. is there a url..


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post May 13 2003, 11:43
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aren't mpc's rather large to be put on a flashbased device?

Well yes probably, but in this case, any other format will be worse, if you encode them at the equivalent quality of mpc -quality 5 -xlevel (maybe a bit out of point, i guess). I assume the basic aim of this player is to give people the choice to pick the format they want to stuff in it.

If the developers can marry good audio and hardware quality with the audio 'standards' that HA.org practises, yeah, it's going to be a hit (at least with HA.org-ers), and I hope they'll sell it in Singapore too. biggrin.gif

Edit: How do you quote with reference to an earlier post?

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post May 13 2003, 11:44
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interesting and nice to see.
Do you have steady contact with Frank Klemm about this? needless to say he might be of great help, but I assume you have alread settled this.
I would like to see Microdrive support smile.gif


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post May 13 2003, 12:46
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I would be happy if it had CF type I,II, and III which would allow 3.5 and 2.5 hard drive support support wink.gif. Currently at 320Gb
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post May 13 2003, 12:52
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CompactFlash Type III ? blink.gif What's that ?
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post May 13 2003, 13:23
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QUOTE (guruboolez @ May 13 2003 - 12:52 PM)
CompactFlash Type III ? blink.gif  What's that ?

Its when Type I and II are used together, So 2x type I/II are needed, which I can't see happening smile.gif
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post May 13 2003, 13:33
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What is meant by "vorbis(limited)"?

I thought I read that mpc is still subject to some change, so is
updateable firmware required?
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post May 13 2003, 13:35
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QUOTE (sld @ May 13 2003 - 05:43 AM)
Edit: How do you quote with reference to an earlier post?

Hit the "quote" button on the post you want to quote instead of the "add reply" button at the top.
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post May 13 2003, 13:51
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QUOTE (DonP @ May 13 2003 - 09:33 AM)
What is meant by "vorbis(limited)"?

Vorbis abuses on memory usage at low bitrates.

http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....=ST&f=9&t=6975&

BTW: @c.b.2000: You mention you supported AAC on your player, in that thread. Is it still being planned, or are there licensing issues?


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post May 13 2003, 14:16
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QUOTE (Joseph @ May 13 2003 - 07:55 AM)
aren't mpc's rather large to be put on a flashbased device?

Maybe, at last there will be a reason to check out the --qualities 3 and 4 tongue.gif
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post May 13 2003, 14:20
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why should it be so?
subjective opinion.
I say no - you say yes.
I use a setting which yields in ~224kbps, I find this most pleasing, and the amount of files I could store on the unit whould suffice my needs, say I'd use --quality 5, this number should be even lower and yet transparent.
In the end, speaking of MPC in whole being "too large" is a subjective matter which can only be decided by oneself.


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post May 13 2003, 14:25
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QUOTE (MTRH @ May 13 2003 - 10:20 AM)
In the end, speaking of MPC in whole being "too large" is a subjective matter which can only be decided by oneself.

It can also be decided by comparing it to other formats, and where these formats reach "good quality" (no transparency needed, I think, since transparency usually isn't the biggest concern on flash portables, and size vs. quality efficiency is the must)

Just my opinion...


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post May 13 2003, 14:31
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QUOTE (rjamorim @ May 13 2003 - 02:25 PM)
QUOTE (MTRH @ May 13 2003 - 10:20 AM)
In the end, speaking of MPC in whole being "too large" is a subjective matter which can only be decided by oneself.

It can also be decided by comparing it to other formats, and where these formats reach "good quality" (no transparency needed, I think, since transparency usually isn't the biggest concern on flash portables, and size vs. quality efficiency is the must)

Just my opinion...

yeah, that souds reasonable.
I think now that MPC is to be portable, transparency will be more of a concern for many, and since standard is transparent at a relatively small size it's not a bad choice of encoder. One album per card.
Ideal for me would be 512MB cards :B
how nice wouldn't it be to store a lossless album on such a card :B hehe
oh well. This will be interesting to see anyway, I'm crossing my fingers for the prosperity of this project.

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