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Sansa Fuze vs Ipod Touch 4th Generation for Sound Quality only, Moved from General Audio (TOS #6)
samd1885
post Dec 30 2011, 21:32
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Hey, I am hoping that someone has tried both and has an honest opinion. I have christmas money and wish to buy an MP3 player, I was wandering which is better, the Sansa Fuze or the Ipod Touch. I only really care about sound quality and any opinions however slight about audio quality would really help. I really don't want any price value opinions though as I want an honest opinion about only sound quality. Thank you! The stock headphones don't matter, I have sennheiser cx 300 ii's and hd 485's. I will put lossless or high bit rate audio on it. Thank you, all help much appreiciated,

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post Dec 31 2011, 20:36
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I am going to get the fuze v2 or at least this is the one I am thinking of, not the clip rolleyes.gif The fuze has line out but I have a question, what's the difference between the headphone input and the line out? To me, they both send sound from the mp3 player so I don't understand. Is the lineout a separate cable and not the usual line out (computer) size, is it a special one? Like ipods, i.e unique.

Also, sorry, may seem simple but what is the maximum output voltage? Does it need to match the hifi system? If I am using the amp from the hifi. Please explain, I have no idea, sorry,

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post Dec 31 2011, 22:29
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QUOTE (samd1885 @ Dec 31 2011, 14:36) *
I am going to get the fuze v2 or at least this is the one I am thinking of, not the clip rolleyes.gif The fuze has line out but I have a question, what's the difference between the headphone input and the line out? To me, they both send sound from the mp3 player so I don't understand. Is the lineout a separate cable and not the usual line out (computer) size, is it a special one? Like ipods, i.e unique.
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http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=92595

QUOTE (samd1885 @ Dec 31 2011, 14:36) *
Also, sorry, may seem simple but what is the maximum output voltage?


Check the section "maximum output" in the link to the clip+ tests I posted above. The FuzeV2 and Clip+ are identical in this regard.
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post Dec 31 2011, 23:45
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QUOTE (saratoga @ Dec 31 2011, 21:29) *
QUOTE (samd1885 @ Dec 31 2011, 14:36) *
I am going to get the fuze v2 or at least this is the one I am thinking of, not the clip rolleyes.gif The fuze has line out but I have a question, what's the difference between the headphone input and the line out? To me, they both send sound from the mp3 player so I don't understand. Is the lineout a separate cable and not the usual line out (computer) size, is it a special one? Like ipods, i.e unique.
Thanks,
Sam.


http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=92595

QUOTE (samd1885 @ Dec 31 2011, 14:36) *
Also, sorry, may seem simple but what is the maximum output voltage?


Check the section "maximum output" in the link to the clip+ tests I posted above. The FuzeV2 and Clip+ are identical in this regard.


I have checked it, very interesting but I have a question, I am a newbie at this and was wandering what maximum output needs to be to provide decent quality through a hifi amplifier. I will plug it into my amp which are connected to hifi speakers. The clip+1 (Fuze v2 too..) has a max output of 489 mv and the ipod touch 474mv. Will the Fuze be sufficient for a hifi amp? What is needed. Sorry, I don't understand it's importance, all help would be much appreciated,
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QUOTE (samd1885 @ Dec 31 2011, 17:45) *
I have checked it, very interesting but I have a question, I am a newbie at this and was wandering what maximum output needs to be to provide decent quality through a hifi amplifier.


It doesn't really matter that much in practice, but a couple hundred mV should be fine. You can always use line out on a fuze which should work fine as well.
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post Jan 1 2012, 00:24
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And the line out bypasses the Fuze's amp and utilizes the hifi's amp, making it sound much better. Thank you! Sudden clarity in my mind from a hell of a lot of distortion. So now all I need to do is find a line out cable that I could buy for the fuze when I buy them together. Great, does this make the fuze merely a data storage then by using line out as it bypasses the fuze's amp?

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QUOTE (samd1885 @ Dec 31 2011, 18:24) *
And the line out bypasses the Fuze's amp and utilizes the hifi's amp, making it sound much better.


Its not going to impact quality.

QUOTE (samd1885 @ Dec 31 2011, 18:24) *
Great, does this make the fuze merely a data storage then by using line out as it bypasses the fuze's amp?


Aside from the differences discussed in the thread I linked, it doesn't really do much else difference for you.
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- samd1885   Sansa Fuze vs Ipod Touch 4th Generation for Sound Quality only   Dec 30 2011, 21:32
- - saratoga   QUOTE (samd1885 @ Dec 30 2011, 15:32) Hey...   Dec 30 2011, 21:38
|- - samd1885   What about through a decent hi fi system? I have a...   Dec 30 2011, 22:54
|- - saratoga   QUOTE (samd1885 @ Dec 30 2011, 16:54) Wha...   Dec 30 2011, 23:39
|- - samd1885   That's amazing, thank you. What you presented ...   Dec 31 2011, 01:06
||- - saratoga   QUOTE (samd1885 @ Dec 30 2011, 19:06) Wha...   Dec 31 2011, 01:20
||- - samd1885   I don't know, I feel that making a conclusion ...   Dec 31 2011, 01:53
||- - saratoga   QUOTE (samd1885 @ Dec 30 2011, 19:53) I d...   Dec 31 2011, 05:01
|- - MichaelW   QUOTE (saratoga @ Dec 31 2011, 11:39) The...   Dec 31 2011, 03:50
- - greynol   Hi and welcome to Hydrogenaudio. In case you have...   Dec 30 2011, 23:04
|- - samd1885   QUOTE (greynol @ Dec 30 2011, 22:04) Hi a...   Dec 30 2011, 23:07
- - greynol   I would hope they aren't based around opinion....   Dec 30 2011, 23:16
|- - samd1885   QUOTE (greynol @ Dec 30 2011, 22:16) Perh...   Dec 30 2011, 23:20
- - greynol   You did nothing to break the rule, rather it was d...   Dec 30 2011, 23:26
|- - samd1885   Ah, ok, I am so sorry, I guess there is little cha...   Dec 30 2011, 23:28
- - greynol   People often provide frequency plots and other gra...   Dec 30 2011, 23:32
- - andy o   I have an iPod Touch 4, and no noise whatsoever. I...   Dec 31 2011, 04:17
- - kritip   The clip+ does suffer in terms of noise during dis...   Dec 31 2011, 05:05
|- - samd1885   QUOTE (kritip @ Dec 31 2011, 04:05) The c...   Dec 31 2011, 11:34
|- - johnb   QUOTE (kritip @ Dec 31 2011, 05:05) The c...   Dec 31 2011, 14:22
|- - samd1885   QUOTE (johnb @ Dec 31 2011, 13:22) QUOTE ...   Dec 31 2011, 14:37
|- - Takla   QUOTE (johnb @ Dec 31 2011, 13:22) But to...   Dec 31 2011, 15:43
- - DonP   Some things to consider: Older sansa's had s...   Dec 31 2011, 18:08
- - samd1885   I am going to get the fuze v2 or at least this is ...   Dec 31 2011, 20:36
|- - saratoga   QUOTE (samd1885 @ Dec 31 2011, 14:36) I a...   Dec 31 2011, 22:29
|- - samd1885   QUOTE (saratoga @ Dec 31 2011, 21:29) QUO...   Dec 31 2011, 23:45
|- - saratoga   QUOTE (samd1885 @ Dec 31 2011, 17:45) I h...   Jan 1 2012, 00:09
|- - samd1885   And the line out bypasses the Fuze's amp and u...   Jan 1 2012, 00:24
|- - saratoga   QUOTE (samd1885 @ Dec 31 2011, 18:24) And...   Jan 1 2012, 00:37
|- - samd1885   In the forum you posted, most people said it would...   Jan 1 2012, 00:45
|- - saratoga   QUOTE (samd1885 @ Dec 31 2011, 18:45) The...   Jan 1 2012, 00:52
|- - samd1885   Ok, i've been reading some more and I have one...   Jan 1 2012, 01:05
|- - saratoga   QUOTE (samd1885 @ Dec 31 2011, 19:05) Ok,...   Jan 1 2012, 01:38
|- - samd1885   Ah, ok thanks, so if I connect it to my CD player ...   Jan 1 2012, 13:27
|- - Soap   QUOTE (samd1885 @ Jan 1 2012, 07:27) Ah, ...   Jan 1 2012, 13:42
- - samd1885   http://www.hyperfi.co.uk/marantz-cd6003-pl...tock-...   Jan 1 2012, 22:41
|- - Soap   QUOTE (samd1885 @ Jan 1 2012, 16:41) http...   Jan 1 2012, 23:29
|- - samd1885   QUOTE (Soap @ Jan 1 2012, 22:29) QUOTE (s...   Jan 1 2012, 23:37
|- - Soap   QUOTE (samd1885 @ Jan 1 2012, 17:37) Not ...   Jan 1 2012, 23:41
|- - samd1885   QUOTE (Soap @ Jan 1 2012, 22:41) QUOTE (s...   Jan 2 2012, 02:43
|- - andy o   That's exactly one of the things I was talking...   Jan 2 2012, 02:55
|- - samd1885   QUOTE (andy o @ Jan 2 2012, 01:55) That...   Jan 2 2012, 03:21
|- - Soap   QUOTE (samd1885 @ Jan 1 2012, 21:21) Ah, ...   Jan 2 2012, 04:05
||- - samd1885   QUOTE (Soap @ Jan 2 2012, 03:05) QUOTE (s...   Jan 2 2012, 11:45
|- - Soap   QUOTE (samd1885 @ Jan 1 2012, 21:21) Shou...   Jan 2 2012, 04:42
|- - andy o   I'm not even sure why it's necessary or ev...   Jan 2 2012, 07:37
- - MichaelW   London to a brick, if it says "MP3" or ...   Jan 2 2012, 04:07
- - andy o   Oh, what the hell, I'll just give the easy ans...   Jan 2 2012, 07:41
|- - samd1885   QUOTE (andy o @ Jan 2 2012, 06:41) Oh, wh...   Jan 2 2012, 11:58
|- - andy o   QUOTE (samd1885 @ Jan 2 2012, 02:58) Soap...   Jan 2 2012, 17:11
|- - saratoga   Just buy an ipod and be done with it. The Apple k...   Jan 2 2012, 17:56
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