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JimH
post Dec 4 2011, 00:07
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JRiver Media Center was reviewed as part of an extensive listening test published in the January, 2012 issue of The Absolute Sound Magazine.

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?...68169.msg458772
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post Dec 4 2011, 14:54
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There are a few reasons.

WASAPI or ASIO, for example.

A 64 bit internal data path.

High resolution files. They tested with HRx 176/24 files in some cases.

I agree with you that, if two players are playing from the same source, to the same sound device, and they are both set up the same, they will deliver the same bits to the device. But there are a lot of if's.

If your player of choice is foobar, I agree that it probably produces identical sound if set the same way.

More Audiophile bits about JRiver Media Center here:
http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Audiophile_Info

And a chart from the article:


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post Dec 4 2011, 15:46
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QUOTE (JimH @ Dec 4 2011, 15:54) *
But there are a lot of if's.


Rather a lot of "if not"s. The default configuration of most systems (basic Vista/7 installation, any basic player DirectSound/Wasapi/ASIO) will output exactly the same. Anything else is just rooted in myths from times when XP had trouble producing bit identical output in its standard configuration or flawed sample rate conversion in case of a mismatch between input and output sample rate. IMHO the way JRiver MC is presented here is scratching the edge of Hydrogenaudio TOS.

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post Dec 4 2011, 16:01
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QUOTE (googlebot @ Dec 4 2011, 16:46) *
The default configuration of most systems (basic Vista/7 installation, any basic player DirectSound/Wasapi/ASIO) will output exactly the same.


DS dithers the output, WASAPI exclusive and ASIO don't.

So the output by DS differs from WASAPI/ASIO

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post Dec 4 2011, 16:07
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A lot of the audiophile grade equpment has required some tinkering to get it going. Here's a wiki topic on our site:
http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/DAC_Settings

Many of the better USB DAC's use a USB driver from Wavelengthaudio.com.

I don't mean to open up a new front on the hardware side. I'm just saying that not all players will work well with this equipment.
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- JimH   The Absolute Sound Magazine listening test   Dec 4 2011, 00:07
- - pdq   Is this some kind of a joke? Why would any player ...   Dec 4 2011, 04:17
- - JimH   There are a few reasons. WASAPI or ASIO, for exam...   Dec 4 2011, 14:54
|- - googlebot   QUOTE (JimH @ Dec 4 2011, 15:54) But ther...   Dec 4 2011, 15:46
||- - JimH   QUOTE (googlebot @ Dec 4 2011, 09:46) QUO...   Dec 4 2011, 16:00
||- - Roseval   QUOTE (googlebot @ Dec 4 2011, 16:46) The...   Dec 4 2011, 16:01
||- - JimH   A lot of the audiophile grade equpment has require...   Dec 4 2011, 16:07
||- - Roseval   QUOTE (JimH @ Dec 4 2011, 17:07) Many of ...   Dec 4 2011, 16:11
||- - JimH   QUOTE (Roseval @ Dec 4 2011, 10:11) QUOTE...   Dec 4 2011, 16:19
||- - Roseval   A couple of DACs using XMOS for you: http://www.au...   Dec 4 2011, 16:23
|- - Northpack   QUOTE (JimH @ Dec 4 2011, 14:54) More Aud...   Dec 6 2011, 12:48
- - JimH   Merci. I think the important thing about the ar...   Dec 4 2011, 16:35
|- - Alikris   QUOTE (JimH @ Dec 4 2011, 15:35) I think ...   Dec 9 2011, 22:11
|- - JimH   QUOTE (Alikris @ Dec 9 2011, 16:11) QUOTE...   Dec 9 2011, 23:03
- - Wombat   Somehow i find this claims pretty bullshit regardi...   Dec 4 2011, 16:39
- - Alex B   It seems that JRiver Media Center was just the tes...   Dec 4 2011, 16:39
|- - .halverhahn   QUOTE (Alex B @ Dec 4 2011, 17:39) Withou...   Dec 6 2011, 14:21
|- - kotekzot   QUOTE (Alex B @ Dec 4 2011, 19:39) Withou...   Dec 26 2011, 17:51
- - Alex B   Wombat, I don't think JimH believes that e.g. ...   Dec 4 2011, 16:58
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- - kraut   QUOTE Until now, the merits of computer audio have...   Dec 5 2011, 23:20
- - gvanbrunt   I believe Jim is abundantly aware of the audio Zel...   Dec 6 2011, 02:45
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|- - Alex B   Oh dear, I thought that this thread split already ...   Dec 6 2011, 14:14
- - Wombat   I wouldn´t have worried but this one question: QUO...   Dec 6 2011, 03:16
|- - greynol   QUOTE (Wombat @ Dec 5 2011, 18:16) Now th...   Dec 6 2011, 03:23
|- - monkey   Using a 64bit data path in JRiver was an engineeri...   Dec 6 2011, 16:21
- - Batman321   The recycle bin is waiting for this thread.   Dec 6 2011, 14:50
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- - Zarggg   Since I'm not an audio expert (my background i...   Dec 9 2011, 06:36
|- - Roseval   64-bit internal data path means that all DSP is do...   Dec 9 2011, 13:55
- - kraut   QUOTE Whether you agree with them or not, and I su...   Dec 10 2011, 03:49
|- - JimH   QUOTE (kraut @ Dec 9 2011, 21:49) Why do ...   Dec 10 2011, 14:23
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