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Ozzdog
post Oct 18 2011, 21:06
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Sitting in front of me is the 40th Anniversary re-issue of "In the Court of the Crimson King".
-I have the CD1 and DVD shown in THIS article.

So, The first CD contains normal CD audio.

and the DVD contains:
"2009 remix, stereo, in 24/48 LPCM and 24/96 MLP".

My question is: Is there notable difference between the DVD sound quality and the CD quality when ripped to a lossless format? If the DVD is better, which format is better? The LPCM or the MLP?

I am trying to get the best stereo version I can.

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post Oct 18 2011, 23:45
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Personally, I don't care whether or not I could actually hear a difference. I am a perfectionist, and would like the best possible. You may say that is irrational, but JUST YOU wait! Come 2069, when bio-audio upgrades are available, I'll be the one laughing! laugh.gif


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QUOTE (Ozzdog @ Oct 18 2011, 15:45) *
I am a perfectionist, and would like the best possible.

What if it turns out the 24/96 is just up-converted from the 24/48?

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post Oct 19 2011, 00:16
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QUOTE (greynol @ Oct 19 2011, 00:49) *
QUOTE (Ozzdog @ Oct 18 2011, 15:45) *
I am a perfectionist, and would like the best possible.

What if it turns out the 24/96 is just up-converted from the 24/48?

Is there a way to tell, other than having an above perfect ear, some magic software program from Russia perhaps?


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post Oct 20 2011, 06:51
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QUOTE (Ozzdog @ Oct 18 2011, 19:16) *
QUOTE (greynol @ Oct 19 2011, 00:49) *
QUOTE (Ozzdog @ Oct 18 2011, 15:45) *
I am a perfectionist, and would like the best possible.

What if it turns out the 24/96 is just up-converted from the 24/48?

Is there a way to tell, other than having an above perfect ear, some magic software program from Russia perhaps?


It's easy to tell 'true' 96khz from upsampled 48kHz using not 'magic' software from Russia, but fairly mundane and well-known commercial software and even freeware. Adobe Audition, Audacity, etc...any software that can do a spectral display or frequency analysis will show whether there is a cuttoff of frequencies at 24 kHz (which indicates an initial 48 kHz sample rate, regardless of the 'delivery' sample rate on the disc)

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QUOTE (krabapple @ Oct 20 2011, 08:51) *
any software that can do a spectral display or frequency analysis will show whether there is a cuttoff of frequencies at 24 kHz (which indicates an initial 48 kHz sample rate, regardless of the 'delivery' sample rate on the disc)


- There are chances that the original record did not have anything above 24 kHz in the first place;
- there are chances that the high-frequency content was added, either intentionally or unintentionally, during upsampling and/or accompanying processing.

So in the end, it will be only a guess. Of course if the cutoff is very prominent you can call it an educated guess, but still.

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QUOTE (alexeysp @ Oct 20 2011, 01:11) *
- There are chances that the original record did not have anything above 24 kHz in the first place;

Which would beg the question as to why the 96kHz version is necessary (though the question would be begged anyway). wink.gif


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- - greynol   I have a feeling he just wants to be sure you have...   Oct 18 2011, 22:51
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|- - greynol   QUOTE (DVDdoug @ Oct 18 2011, 15:38) But,...   Oct 18 2011, 23:46
- - greynol   We get people here all the time asking about stuff...   Oct 18 2011, 23:40
- - Ozzdog   Personally, I don't care whether or not I coul...   Oct 18 2011, 23:45
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