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Tb Santa Cruz, software support
rarewolf
post May 5 2003, 18:31
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I was checking out a variety of DSP plugins the other day, and one of them implied compatible with ^all^ audio cards ^except^ the Turtlebeach "Santa Cruz"(?) I haven't yet purchased my ultimate sound card yet, but I wonder what it is about this card that is different from ^all^ others?? (i.e., in the context of 3rd party support).

What would I look for in a card that would increase my chances for 3rd party software support (e.g., another card I'm more seriously considering is the M-Audio "revolution").

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KikeG
post May 6 2003, 14:42
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I don't understand what can cause a TBSC not begin more supported from 3rd. party plugins than other cards. I have one, and the only drawbacks I can find that resemble to this are that the drivers are no longer updated from Turtle Beach (but work fine in WinXP and Win2K), and the W98 drivers have problems if you have DirectX 8 or higher installed (won't be fixed).
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post May 6 2003, 15:32
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Just as i read this i looked at Turtle-Beach Support and there are indeed newer drivers
for WDM. Beta still, but Turtle always managed to get their drivers certified after a while.

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post May 6 2003, 15:41
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QUOTE (Wombat @ May 6 2003 - 03:32 PM)
Just as i read this i looked at Turtle-Beach Support and there are indeed newer drivers
for WDM. Beta still, but Turtle always managed to get their drivers certified after a while.

Wombat

IIRC, they have been beta for a long time, with no changes at all in their status in this time. Seems they are abandoned. Anyway, the ones I have (I don't remember if they are the beta or the stable version), seem to work fine.

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post May 6 2003, 15:50
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Beta for a long time? Sorry they are dated 04-25-03 Version 4184.

I thought it is new....

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William
post May 6 2003, 16:04
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QUOTE (Wombat @ May 6 2003 - 02:50 PM)
Beta for a long time? Sorry they are dated 04-25-03 Version 4184.

I thought it is new....

Wombat

This one is new.
The previous one only supports 98SE if I remember correctly.

Btw, does it work?
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post May 6 2003, 16:06
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QUOTE (Wombat @ May 6 2003 - 03:50 PM)
Beta for a long time? Sorry they are dated 04-25-03 Version 4184.

I thought it is new....

I didn't know. I checked a couple of months ago, and IIRC they were old, from 2002, but maybe I'm wrong, I can't remember for sure. Good to know there is a new release and the product is not dead. Thanks for the info.
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post May 6 2003, 17:03
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Just to let you know. It works without problems here but nothing tested smile.gif
This is in the readme:


What's New?
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* Optimized Installer. Removes old driver and installs new one without having
to run the install twice. Also installs in 98SE/ME/2K/XP.

* MP9 5.1 support under XP. Now you can play multi-channel WMA files!

* SRS CSII Virtual 5.1 plugin for MP9 works with this driver.

* AC3 digital over SPDIF working in 98SE (with MS QFE 269601USA8.EXE)

* Fixed game port conflict with MPX motherboards.

* Enhanced MIDI playback with better timing and fixed region exclusive(hihats)

* Fixed DSound volume scaling. Now distant sounds in games are more audible.

* Fixed distortion/intermittant noise playing multiple channels at various
sample rates.

* Fixed Center/Sub volumes to better match front/rear output levels.

* synced up the windows speaker modes with Santa Cruz Control Panel.

* Optimized boot time and resume from standby times.


Known Issues in this Beta:
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* Santa Cruz effects do not work while in 6 speaker mode.

* WinDVD/PowerDVD Dolby ProLogic II virtual 5.1 plays back as 2 channel.

* You may have to restore the default settings in the Santa Cruz Control Panel
to see the default speaker setting you selected during the install.

* If the Santa Cruz tray icon (blue speaker) does not appear, simply run the
Santa Cruz Control Panel from the Start Menu or Windows Control Panel and
then right click on it and select the 'Load System Tray' from the context menu.
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post May 27 2003, 22:14
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I just wanted to let you know that the 4187 from Turtle-Beach
are absolutely stable here.
I had small issues with 4184 and 4186. All got fixed with 4187.

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post May 27 2003, 23:26
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QUOTE (rarewolf @ May 5 2003 - 09:31 AM)
I was checking out a variety of DSP plugins the other day, and one of them implied compatible with ^all^ audio cards ^except^ the Turtlebeach "Santa Cruz"(?)  I haven't yet purchased my ultimate sound card yet, but I wonder what it is about this card that is different from ^all^ others?? (i.e., in the context of 3rd party support).

Could you tell us what DSP plug-in you're referring to?
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