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Stereophonic recording?, L/R balance
HTS
post Jun 6 2011, 01:47
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What does stereo recording achieve? I noticed that the left and right channels of some stereo samples don't sound the same, and loaded them into audacity. The program confirms my suspicion that the sounds vary greatly in characteristics. For a vibrato filled note, most often only one of the channels displays the wavy pattern induced by the vibrato. Is this what stereo recording is supposed to do? So the sounds mixed into your music will have certain instruments placed to the L/R side of the listener?
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Glenn Gundlach
post Jun 6 2011, 04:21
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QUOTE (HTS @ Jun 5 2011, 16:47) *
What does stereo recording achieve? I noticed that the left and right channels of some stereo samples don't sound the same, and loaded them into audacity. The program confirms my suspicion that the sounds vary greatly in characteristics. For a vibrato filled note, most often only one of the channels displays the wavy pattern induced by the vibrato. Is this what stereo recording is supposed to do? So the sounds mixed into your music will have certain instruments placed to the L/R side of the listener?


Much of what you get in popular recordings is more accurately described as multi channel mono from multi-track with artificial reverb. These can be very pleasing. In a true stereo recording you're getting the room reflections and 'ambience'. I have some London / Decca recordings that are true stereo and are excellent.

BTW when the left and right channels sound the same, it's mono.

In my opinion much of what was 'wrong' with recordings were the limitations of the LP. Low frequency mono mix, 30 Hz high pass, restricted separation all to avoid skipping. Digital recording has no such limitations. In theory down to DC, no interchannel phase restrictions, no spectral limits because of EQ and then take out all the pesky wow, flutter ticks and pops. I'm told that gives it 'character'. Rubbish.

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post Jun 6 2011, 04:30
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QUOTE (Glenn Gundlach @ Jun 5 2011, 23:21) *
Much of what you get in popular recordings is more accurately described as multi channel mono from multi-track with artificial reverb. These can be very pleasing.

Yeah that's what I meant. But most sample libraries (including the expensive Vienna Symphonic) are recorded in True Stereo. How are you going to produce commercial style audio that people are used to listening to, with these unbalanced samples?
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post Jun 6 2011, 04:47
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QUOTE (Glenn Gundlach @ Jun 5 2011, 23:21) *
Much of what you get in popular recordings is more accurately described as multi channel mono from multi-track with artificial reverb. These can be very pleasing.

Yeah that's what I meant. But most sample libraries (including the expensive Vienna Symphonic) are recorded in True Stereo. How are you going to produce commercial style audio that people are used to listening to, with these unbalanced samples?


Just making a wild guess, but could it be that the channels on the samples are not actually left and right, but rather forward facing and rearward facing (I.E. the mic is rotated 90 degrees) or some other configuration and that they're meant to give whoever is mixing the final music more options on how to make the instruments sound?
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post Jun 6 2011, 04:57
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QUOTE (Rotareneg @ Jun 5 2011, 23:47) *
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QUOTE (Glenn Gundlach @ Jun 5 2011, 23:21) *
Much of what you get in popular recordings is more accurately described as multi channel mono from multi-track with artificial reverb. These can be very pleasing.

Yeah that's what I meant. But most sample libraries (including the expensive Vienna Symphonic) are recorded in True Stereo. How are you going to produce commercial style audio that people are used to listening to, with these unbalanced samples?


Just making a wild guess, but could it be that the channels on the samples are not actually left and right, but rather forward facing and rearward facing (I.E. the mic is rotated 90 degrees) or some other configuration and that they're meant to give whoever is mixing the final music more options on how to make the instruments sound?

No idea about that, just the L/R stresses aren't even consistent across the same instrument/playing style. The samples for a violin may have one note sound left-leaning, then the next semitone above becomes right leaning, then left again, then center (just like the commercial recordings).
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- HTS   Stereophonic recording?   Jun 6 2011, 01:47
- - Glenn Gundlach   QUOTE (HTS @ Jun 5 2011, 16:47) What does...   Jun 6 2011, 04:21
|- - HTS   QUOTE (Glenn Gundlach @ Jun 5 2011, 23:21...   Jun 6 2011, 04:30
|- - Rotareneg   QUOTE (HTS @ Jun 5 2011, 22:30) QUOTE (Gl...   Jun 6 2011, 04:47
||- - HTS   QUOTE (Rotareneg @ Jun 5 2011, 23:47) QUO...   Jun 6 2011, 04:57
|- - Glenn Gundlach   QUOTE (HTS @ Jun 5 2011, 19:30) QUOTE (Gl...   Jun 6 2011, 07:53
- - Paulhoff   QUOTE (HTS @ Jun 5 2011, 20:47) What does...   Jun 6 2011, 04:30
|- - HTS   QUOTE (Paulhoff @ Jun 5 2011, 23:30) Yes,...   Jun 6 2011, 04:50
|- - dhromed   QUOTE (HTS @ Jun 6 2011, 05:50) Recording...   Jun 6 2011, 10:15
|- - Paulhoff   QUOTE (HTS @ Jun 5 2011, 23:50) QUOTE (Pa...   Jun 6 2011, 14:47
- - Arnold B. Krueger   QUOTE (HTS @ Jun 5 2011, 20:47) What does...   Jun 6 2011, 14:52
- - skexu   I don't know how for classical, but in popular...   Jun 6 2011, 14:57
|- - dc2bluelight   QUOTE (skexu @ Jun 6 2011, 08:57) I don...   Jun 21 2011, 22:13
- - Rotareneg   HTS doesn't mean "Why is music released i...   Jun 6 2011, 19:20
|- - Paulhoff   QUOTE (Rotareneg @ Jun 6 2011, 14:20) HTS...   Jun 6 2011, 19:32
|- - dc2bluelight   QUOTE (Paulhoff @ Jun 6 2011, 13:32) How ...   Jun 21 2011, 22:21
- - skexu   Minor differences are just a nice variation to our...   Jun 6 2011, 21:18
- - hollowman   What is the proper semantic name -- e.g., a Wiki-s...   Jul 6 2011, 11:14
|- - Roseval   QUOTE (hollowman @ Jul 6 2011, 12:14) Wha...   Jul 6 2011, 20:56
|- - hollowman   QUOTE (Roseval @ Jul 6 2011, 12:56) QUOTE...   Jul 7 2011, 04:14
|- - db1989   QUOTE (Roseval @ Jul 6 2011, 20:56) QUOTE...   Jul 7 2011, 10:31
|- - hollowman   QUOTE (db1989 @ Jul 7 2011, 02:31) QUOTE ...   Jul 7 2011, 13:53
|- - Soap   QUOTE (hollowman @ Jul 7 2011, 08:53) doe...   Jul 7 2011, 14:14
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|- - Ed Seedhouse   QUOTE (hollowman @ Jul 7 2011, 05:53) Ste...   Jul 7 2011, 16:00
|- - db1989   QUOTE (hollowman @ Jul 7 2011, 05:53) QUO...   Jul 7 2011, 16:06
- - hlloyge   If it has two separate channels, it's stereo, ...   Jul 6 2011, 15:39
|- - pdq   QUOTE (hlloyge @ Jul 6 2011, 10:39) If it...   Jul 6 2011, 15:52
|- - hlloyge   QUOTE (pdq @ Jul 6 2011, 16:52) Even if t...   Jul 6 2011, 17:31
|- - pdq   QUOTE (hlloyge @ Jul 6 2011, 12:31) And w...   Jul 6 2011, 17:57
|- - hlloyge   QUOTE (pdq @ Jul 6 2011, 18:57) No, tape ...   Jul 6 2011, 22:19
|- - pdq   QUOTE (hlloyge @ Jul 6 2011, 17:19) If th...   Jul 6 2011, 23:31
- - db1989   At the most basic level, one could never obtain id...   Jul 6 2011, 18:54
- - pdq   I think what hiloyge was saying is that if there i...   Jul 6 2011, 19:00
- - dc2bluelight   QUOTE (pdq @ Jul 6 2011, 13:00) I think w...   Jul 7 2011, 08:50
- - hlloyge   QUOTE (dc2bluelight @ Jul 7 2011, 09:50) ...   Jul 7 2011, 11:04
- - dc2bluelight   QUOTE (hlloyge @ Jul 7 2011, 05:04) I...   Jul 8 2011, 06:32


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