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foo_dsp_bassexciter, A psychology model based ADVANCED bass exciter.
nosyfred
post Feb 2 2011, 15:51
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@China_DemonViper:
Some improvement suggestions:
o adjustable decay/release time of generated sub wave (it is too long in my ears and I could not find any correlation between one of the sliders and sub wave release time)
o bypass switch

@tribaljet:
Resampling is not necessary at all, if sound card driver (Terratec EWS 88D) supports sample rate detection. It adapts to material's sample rate immediately (DAC shows SPDIF's incoming sample rate). (o:

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tribaljet
post Feb 2 2011, 16:37
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@nosyfred: I know that. What I'm saying is that many soundcards do a terrible job when resampling by themselves, and they work better by feeding them content that the soundcard won't resample.
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post Feb 2 2011, 17:54
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In case of integrated onboard sound, I use sw resampling too. Which sw resampler can you recomment? I made good experiences with SoX foobar plugin - nice impulse response and low cpu load.
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post Feb 2 2011, 17:58
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I recommend SoX. I find it very good, better than many commercially available ones. Not to mention it's more flexible than the standard resampler. I prefer to feed the soundcard the sampling rate it is outputting, skipping hw resampling at all. I don't really have the money for high quality hw resamplers wink.gif
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post Apr 28 2011, 11:21
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the Downloadlink is broken, can somebody re-up this file?
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tribaljet
post Apr 28 2011, 11:26
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My previous link went down, so here's a new one: http://www. mediafire.com/ ?gcjwhzcitemehie (join spaces)
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post Apr 29 2011, 23:33
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This link is not working too!

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post Apr 29 2011, 23:39
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QUOTE (servimo @ Apr 29 2011, 22:33) *
This link is not working too!


Yes, it is.
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Dexter Dude
post Jun 26 2011, 06:19
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Excellent plugin. Thank you !
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post Jun 26 2011, 09:28
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I have a question: How does "harmonic energy" sort of work? Is this function some kind of general decibel gain?
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Noxos
post Oct 22 2013, 21:46
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Sorry to necro this thread but I really want to try this. Total foobar newb here though how do I use it? I have it installed (it's showing in preferences) but how do I actually use it and tweak the settings to those posted in the OP?

thanks
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Sir Joe
post Apr 18 2015, 13:55
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Hello, I cannot understand why this thread is so desert, if this plugin is just amazing.
I even wanted to offer you a beer, China Viper, but the Pub was closed (link broken).

So, I have a few questions, for China Viper or whoever can answer (Viper does not seem to be around anymore...).

1) threshold is a term used in the Compression and is calculated in DB and it indicates the level which the sound must reach before the Compressor reduces it.
Now, here I think it works more like a sort of Cutoff, so that if I set it at 400, the effect of the DSP will not affect frequencies above the 400hz.
I have done some testes by placing the Above Pre-Wave Decay in 0db, and it was very clear that a setting of 1200 for the threshold was affecting more frequencies than a 400 one.
Is my supposition correct or am I misunderstanding what this threashold here is for?

2) harmonic bandwidth: from Viper's description I understood that is is a bit like the Q factor or Parametric EQs. Or the Octave factor in other EQ. So I understand that the higher this number is, the more neighbour frequencies are affected. What I do not understand well is HOW this value is to be considered.
For example, if I have a Harmonic Frequency of 60hz, and an Harmonic Bandwidth of 80hz, are we talking of 80hz on the right and 80 on the left??? Meaning that I am affecting a range from -20hz (???) till 140hz, with peak on 60hz? Or are the 80 divided, 40 right and 40 left, meaning that I am affecting from 20 50 100hz?
I really would like to know this, because if I set a wrong value and I boost till -20hz, i can damage my headphones. They can get down till 8hz but not more smile.gif

3) Above and below pre-wave decay: sorry, I really did not understand how that works.
Can anybody explain it better? The definition itself, maybe because I also am not native english speaker, is not clear. "notch wave"? Above and below sounds again like a cutoff. But this "the movement of the source bass" is a a total mystery to me.
Besides, they go from -92 to 0, so, in this case, what is to be understood for "lower value"? Lower number (so that 0 is lower than 92)? or lower, well, value biggrin.gif
I have played around and I see that the "above" has more effect on the bass with values near to 0, and the "below" with values near to -92.
But apart for this, I have no idea what they do.

Now I would like to share my settings.
Premise, my headphones are High End Bluetooth Headphones, the Audio Technica ATH-WS99BT.
For me personally they are the best overall, among more than 30 tested, as you can see in this thread which I have opened on Head-Fi.
If you are using this plugin you like bass. If you like bass and you plan to buy a BT Headphone, you can not find anything better than the ATH. Huge impact of bass with no distortion and not eating other frequencies (which are all very well rendered, with detail and presence and clarity).
Anyway their bass, although powerful and impactful, is not artificially boosted, which is a good thing, but require some boost if you are a basshead like me.
And one thing, the only, which I was missing in their bass (in comparison with the Fidelio M2BT) is the tightness/body of the vibration.
This plugin fixes that smile.gif
With these settings:
Threshold Frequency 400Hz
Harmonic Frequency 60Hz
Harmonic Bandwidth 40Hz (I wait for the answer about that, to decide if setting this at 80. 40 is my safe setting)
Harmonic Energy 20dB
Above Pre-Wave Decay -20dB
Below Pre-Wave Decay -40dB

EDIT:
I forgot that I use this plugin in combination with the Graphic Equalizer (EQ first, Exciter after), which also boosts a bit the bass.
And then I have two settings, one with normal boost on the EQ and the above mentioned Exciter settings, plus the Dynamics Compressor at the end (which makes the bass a bit more full bodied, something which the advanced Limiter does not do). This is for general music.
And another setting where on the EQ there are a bit more neighbour frequencies boosted around the 40-80 front, and the Exciter is with 40db Energy.
These are exclusively Dubstep settings, which work on some other bassy music too, but are too much for some techno. For example a track like Balloons (Club Mix) of Nils Hoffmann will distort with these settings.
In these settings I do not use the Dynamics compressor at the end, but the Advanced Limiters instead. The compressor cuts immediately with such huge bass boost and all sound just like low tone, no highs, and no real power.

Cheers

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Sir Joe
post Apr 18 2015, 18:31
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EDIT 2 (apparently I cannot edit again):
I am switching to Advanced Limiter for all settings because the Dynamics Compressor seems to reduce transparency and a bit of soundstage and also makes some strange games with the loudness (which is probably how compressors are supposed to work).
That little extra body in the bass is not worth the negatives.
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kikke
post Jun 11 2015, 18:09
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Downloaded from http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://viperc...sExciter_EN.rar (march 15).

VST version will be available or exist?
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