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Call for capable people to do a comparison of rippers
Jan S.
post Jul 26 2010, 00:13
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Hi.

Over the years and recently (here and here) there have been many discussions and questions about the differences between different cd rippers. New rippers with secure ripping facilities (dbpoweramp, CUEtools, foobar etc) have emerged in recent years and it is now difficult to judge compared to some years ago when the only answer was EAC.

For this reason I thought it could be very good to have a page at the wiki trying to explain in a concise form what the differences are. I was imagining a table with features like we have done for the Lossless format comparison but probably also additional text is required.

I do not consider myself close to competent to try to do this but I have tried to setup a starting point for such a page here: http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?ti...n_of_CD_rippers
I hope the capable people here will invest some time into this so as to save time repeating these points. Please post your thoughts on this idea: how best to organize?, what to put in the table?, which programs are relevant?, what other issues need to be explain in text?, etc.

Some more links:
wikipedias list of rippers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD_ripper
Kind of comparison here for secure ripping features: http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Secure_ripping
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greynol
post Jul 27 2010, 23:51
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I'm starting to think that just specifying Windows in the OS is not adequate. Many people are having quite a bit of difficulty getting EAC to work properly with 64-bit versions of Windows specifically and post-XP Windows in general. While some people are finding solutions, more and different problems are being reported regularly. There seem to be more and more drive-based or interface-based issues as well.


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- Jan S.   Call for capable people to do a comparison of rippers   Jul 26 2010, 00:13
- - willow   I'm having the impression that novadays CD dri...   Jul 26 2010, 12:38
- - Jan S.   Did you account for offset and difference in heade...   Jul 26 2010, 13:26
- - Jan S.   I have filled some of the table but at this point ...   Jul 27 2010, 00:22
- - greynol   "Capable of disabling C2" needs to be re...   Jul 27 2010, 00:36
|- - greynol   Noting a recent addition made by Eli, I'd like...   Jul 28 2010, 00:34
|- - Eli   QUOTE (greynol @ Jul 26 2010, 16:36) I al...   Jul 28 2010, 01:16
- - Jan S.   * AR2 dropped and footnote added * dropped dppower...   Jul 27 2010, 01:01
- - greynol   I would think that anything hitting that chart sho...   Jul 27 2010, 01:10
- - greynol   When you tell EAC that your drive has Accurate Str...   Jul 27 2010, 01:18
- - greynol   I've made quite a few updates. Please review ...   Jul 27 2010, 07:22
- - spoon   HTOA has been supported since dBpoweramp R13 (it i...   Jul 27 2010, 10:14
|- - greynol   QUOTE (spoon @ Jul 27 2010, 02:14) Accura...   Jul 27 2010, 16:07
- - stevenmmm   MusicBee supports many of the ripping features lis...   Jul 27 2010, 11:42
|- - Jan S.   I have reorganized the table and added info. QUOT...   Jul 27 2010, 14:36
|- - greynol   QUOTE (Jan S. @ Jul 27 2010, 06:36) you a...   Jul 27 2010, 16:09
- - greynol   Careful about post-processing. With at least dBpo...   Jul 27 2010, 16:14
- - spoon   QUOTE Is the table correct now with regards to dbp...   Jul 27 2010, 16:20
- - greynol   From my understanding it wasn't a blanket chec...   Jul 27 2010, 16:28
- - spoon   It suggests that both CRCs are calculated, for eve...   Jul 27 2010, 20:16
- - greynol   I don't see how you can say that. It's pr...   Jul 27 2010, 20:24
- - spoon   >offset is largely determined through mathemati...   Jul 27 2010, 20:27
- - greynol   I just want to make sure that you realize that the...   Jul 27 2010, 20:42
- - spoon   The code suggests that all effective CRCs for +-5 ...   Jul 27 2010, 21:07
- - greynol   That seems to be the most plausible explanation; a...   Jul 27 2010, 21:25
- - spoon   >I don't understand why you would say it we...   Jul 27 2010, 21:42
- - greynol   I don't see how it could be when the two metho...   Jul 27 2010, 21:50
- - spoon   A bad collision is like playing the lottery, the m...   Jul 27 2010, 22:06
- - greynol   Duh, I get it now. Thanks spoon! CUETools do...   Jul 27 2010, 23:37
- - greynol   I'm starting to think that just specifying Win...   Jul 27 2010, 23:51
- - greynol   I have an objection with footnote 4 since it impli...   Jul 28 2010, 00:37
- - greynol   I think there is a way to generalize rows that and...   Jul 28 2010, 02:45
|- - Eli   QUOTE (greynol @ Jul 27 2010, 21:45) dBpo...   Jul 28 2010, 04:03
|- - greynol   QUOTE (Eli @ Jul 27 2010, 20:03) I'm ...   Jul 28 2010, 04:19
|- - Eli   QUOTE (greynol @ Jul 27 2010, 23:19) QUOT...   Jul 28 2010, 22:33
- - greynol   Maybe Jan feels differently, but I thought it a go...   Jul 28 2010, 04:18
- - Jan S.   Why is over-reading in the cache column?Why does ...   Jul 29 2010, 00:15
|- - greynol   QUOTE (Jan S. @ Jul 28 2010, 16:15) Why i...   Jul 29 2010, 01:57
|- - Jan S.   QUOTE (greynol @ Jul 29 2010, 02:57) QUOT...   Jul 29 2010, 23:56
|- - greynol   QUOTE (Jan S. @ Jul 29 2010, 15:56) So we...   Jul 30 2010, 01:06
||- - mjb2006   QUOTE (greynol @ Jul 29 2010, 18:06) QUOT...   Jul 30 2010, 10:41
|- - greynol   QUOTE (Jan S. @ Jul 29 2010, 15:56) C2 p...   Jul 30 2010, 01:13
- - Jan S.   I have implemented some of suggested changes. Befo...   Jul 30 2010, 14:16
- - greynol   I think adding a row about AR results across multi...   Jul 30 2010, 19:07
|- - Jan S.   QUOTE (greynol @ Jul 30 2010, 20:07) I th...   Jul 30 2010, 19:24
- - Jan S.   FYI I found this in XLD changelog:QUOTE Added opti...   Jul 30 2010, 19:11
- - greynol   Thanks Jan. I will edit the table accordingly to ...   Jul 30 2010, 19:21
- - greynol   The argument boils down to how likely a ripping er...   Jul 30 2010, 19:51
- - greynol   fb2k entry updated and other minor edits. I put N...   Jul 30 2010, 21:28
- - spoon   CDex should be added to the table, it is still wid...   Jul 30 2010, 22:00
- - greynol   >not a theory it is a fact You're right sp...   Jul 30 2010, 22:16
|- - Jan S.   QUOTE (greynol @ Jul 30 2010, 23:16) ...   Jul 30 2010, 22:32
- - greynol   I won't shed a tear to see it gone, but it lic...   Jul 30 2010, 22:39
|- - Jan S.   QUOTE (greynol @ Jul 30 2010, 23:39) I wo...   Jul 30 2010, 22:51
- - Pepzhez   There is no proprietary method of cache defeat in ...   Jul 30 2010, 23:10
- - greynol   Items that are left blank or are vague are in need...   Jul 31 2010, 00:52
- - Pepzhez   Filling in the gaps for XLD -- Image as single fi...   Jul 31 2010, 04:58
|- - Jan S.   QUOTE (Pepzhez @ Jul 31 2010, 05:58) Fill...   Jul 31 2010, 11:18
- - Porcus   One year and a half gone since this discussion, th...   Feb 15 2012, 11:10
- - Porcus   Considering the knowledgebase is open for edit ......   Oct 7 2012, 10:11


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