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Tracking Force Suggestions for Stanton 500.v3 Cartridge?, DJ cart with range of 2 - 5 grams. Using for hi-fi play
Tracking Force for Stanton 500.v3 (2 - 5g Range)
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Knowzy
post Jul 8 2010, 07:07
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Supposing I've got a brand new Stanton T.92 USB turntable and I'm getting ready to produce some samples.

It comes with a pre-mounted (and presumably pre-aligned) Stanton 500.v3 cartridge. As a DJ cartridge, it has a wide range- 2 to 5 grams- and no specific recommendation within.

The tonearm is balanced and the counterweight dial zeroed. What tracking force do you think I should set?

Normally the consensus is to set the tracking force near the top of the range and I'm inclined to use 4.5 grams.

However, as a DJ cartridge, the top of the range is designed to ensure stability amidst violent scratching motions, which I won't be doing. Maybe 4.5 is overkill for trackability.

So, I'm throwing the question open to HA to see if we can't come to an agreement before I began sampling.




Balanced and Awaiting a Tracking Force Figure


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Knowzy
post Jul 26 2010, 22:48
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I'm now using 5 grams of tracking force (the top end of the manufacturer's range) and it's still not enough.

Here's how I got there.

After rebalancing, I tried the outermost trackability track. Even at 5 grams, there were a few points of audible mistracking.

The innermost track was much worse- constant audible mistracking throughout.

Hear for yourself: The start of the FLAC is the outermost track and the end is the innermost track.

At +15dB, these tracks seem to be louder than you would typically encounter playing music records.

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I actually still use HFS75 for this purpose. You might be interested to know that its sleeve notes say that +14dB "represents a typical hi-fi standard, achieved within the range of most high quality cartridges". So, I wouldn't worry too much if +16dB proved unachievable.


Side A has a +14dB version of this track near the end of the record that plays without audible mistracking.

At the center of the record, the Stanton could handle +15db at 4 grams.

Nonetheless, I'm a bit let down that I couldn't get a smooth play on the inside and the outside of the record no matter how much tracking force I used.
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- Knowzy   Tracking Force Suggestions for Stanton 500.v3 Cartridge?   Jul 8 2010, 07:07
- - Axon   Would it be too snarky of an answer to say that th...   Jul 8 2010, 21:50
|- - Knowzy   Before I say too much more, I should disclose that...   Jul 8 2010, 22:28
- - Knowzy   I posed this question to Stanton's tech suppor...   Jul 9 2010, 00:04
|- - Canar   QUOTE (Knowzy @ Jul 8 2010, 18:04) The cu...   Jul 9 2010, 00:50
- - RonaldDumsfeld   The real answer is to experiment and find out for ...   Jul 9 2010, 04:07
- - botface   Don't you have a test record? If not I'd s...   Jul 9 2010, 09:01
|- - Arnold B. Krueger   QUOTE (botface @ Jul 9 2010, 04:01) Don...   Jul 9 2010, 11:41
|- - Knowzy   QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Jul 9 2010, 03...   Jul 9 2010, 18:26
|- - botface   Aren't those tracks for setting bias? I have H...   Jul 9 2010, 19:09
|- - Knowzy   QUOTE (botface @ Jul 9 2010, 11:09) Aren...   Jul 10 2010, 07:07
- - Knowzy   Using the +15dB track, I tested down to 2.25g and ...   Jul 12 2010, 01:09
|- - botface   I can hear mistracking in the right channel of the...   Jul 12 2010, 09:57
|- - Knowzy   QUOTE (botface @ Jul 12 2010, 01:57) I ca...   Jul 12 2010, 22:47
|- - 2Bdecided   QUOTE (Knowzy @ Jul 12 2010, 22:47) Axon ...   Jul 13 2010, 14:04
- - 2Bdecided   Yes, it's important to remember that once the ...   Jul 12 2010, 13:07
- - botface   QUOTE If you can hear mistracking then clearly I d...   Jul 13 2010, 09:00
- - Knowzy   QUOTE (botface @ Jul 13 2010, 01:00) If y...   Jul 13 2010, 18:11
- - Knowzy   The Short Version I found my tracking force: 4 gra...   Jul 14 2010, 06:20
|- - cliveb   QUOTE (Knowzy @ Jul 14 2010, 06:20) Then ...   Jul 14 2010, 11:02
|- - Knowzy   QUOTE (cliveb @ Jul 14 2010, 03:02) envir...   Jul 15 2010, 16:16
- - Knowzy   I'm now using 5 grams of tracking force (the t...   Jul 26 2010, 22:48
- - botface   What you're describing can often be the result...   Jul 27 2010, 09:34
|- - Knowzy   QUOTE (botface @ Jul 27 2010, 01:34) What...   Jul 27 2010, 16:45
|- - Snackcakes   I have the same table. this is some great info.   Sep 20 2011, 18:46
- - Glenn Gundlach   When I worked in stereo stores, I recommended usin...   Sep 20 2011, 23:08
- - Defkon 1   sorry Im very new to this forum and I can't se...   Dec 14 2013, 05:26


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