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Tracking Force Suggestions for Stanton 500.v3 Cartridge?, DJ cart with range of 2 - 5 grams. Using for hi-fi play
Tracking Force for Stanton 500.v3 (2 - 5g Range)
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Knowzy
post Jul 8 2010, 07:07
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Supposing I've got a brand new Stanton T.92 USB turntable and I'm getting ready to produce some samples.

It comes with a pre-mounted (and presumably pre-aligned) Stanton 500.v3 cartridge. As a DJ cartridge, it has a wide range- 2 to 5 grams- and no specific recommendation within.

The tonearm is balanced and the counterweight dial zeroed. What tracking force do you think I should set?

Normally the consensus is to set the tracking force near the top of the range and I'm inclined to use 4.5 grams.

However, as a DJ cartridge, the top of the range is designed to ensure stability amidst violent scratching motions, which I won't be doing. Maybe 4.5 is overkill for trackability.

So, I'm throwing the question open to HA to see if we can't come to an agreement before I began sampling.




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Axon
post Jul 8 2010, 21:50
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Would it be too snarky of an answer to say that the preferrable tracking force of a Stanton 500 is preferrably 2-4 kilograms? gun2.gif

Sorry, I bought one as a backup once upon a time, and it managed to achieve a ~40hz tonearm resonance on my SL-1200. If low compliance is how DJ cartridges achieve "slammin' bass" then I am kinda scared. Not as scared as using a ceramic cart though.

If you wanted a serious answer, IIRC, I'd probably track it at 3g by default, unless it started jumping grooves.
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Knowzy
post Jul 8 2010, 22:28
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Before I say too much more, I should disclose that Stanton sent me this turntable free so that I could review it. I paid for the previous four turntables I reviewed out of my pocket.

I don't plan on that fact to affect my opinion of it and I expect you all call me on it if you believe that to be the case.

QUOTE (Axon @ Jul 8 2010, 13:50) *
I bought one as a backup once upon a time, and it managed to achieve a ~40hz tonearm resonance on my SL-1200. If low compliance is how DJ cartridges achieve "slammin' bass" then I am kinda scared. Not as scared as using a ceramic cart though.

The proof will be in the listening/analysis.

The turntable is clearly better constructed than the $100 turntables I've been testing. But, as I advise readers in my guide, it is a DJ turntable, which is a musical instrument first and foremost.


QUOTE (Axon @ Jul 8 2010, 13:50) *
If you wanted a serious answer, IIRC, I'd probably track it at 3g by default, unless it started jumping grooves.

Thanks, that's two votes for 3g and one for 5g.

Since you replied, do you mind showing your work a bit?

In particular, is your general tracking force philosophy to use as little as you can get away with or, like I hear most often, to set the tracking for at or near the top of the range to avoid mistracking at all costs?
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- Knowzy   Tracking Force Suggestions for Stanton 500.v3 Cartridge?   Jul 8 2010, 07:07
- - Axon   Would it be too snarky of an answer to say that th...   Jul 8 2010, 21:50
|- - Knowzy   Before I say too much more, I should disclose that...   Jul 8 2010, 22:28
- - Knowzy   I posed this question to Stanton's tech suppor...   Jul 9 2010, 00:04
|- - Canar   QUOTE (Knowzy @ Jul 8 2010, 18:04) The cu...   Jul 9 2010, 00:50
- - RonaldDumsfeld   The real answer is to experiment and find out for ...   Jul 9 2010, 04:07
- - botface   Don't you have a test record? If not I'd s...   Jul 9 2010, 09:01
|- - Arnold B. Krueger   QUOTE (botface @ Jul 9 2010, 04:01) Don...   Jul 9 2010, 11:41
|- - Knowzy   QUOTE (Arnold B. Krueger @ Jul 9 2010, 03...   Jul 9 2010, 18:26
|- - botface   Aren't those tracks for setting bias? I have H...   Jul 9 2010, 19:09
|- - Knowzy   QUOTE (botface @ Jul 9 2010, 11:09) Aren...   Jul 10 2010, 07:07
- - Knowzy   Using the +15dB track, I tested down to 2.25g and ...   Jul 12 2010, 01:09
|- - botface   I can hear mistracking in the right channel of the...   Jul 12 2010, 09:57
|- - Knowzy   QUOTE (botface @ Jul 12 2010, 01:57) I ca...   Jul 12 2010, 22:47
|- - 2Bdecided   QUOTE (Knowzy @ Jul 12 2010, 22:47) Axon ...   Jul 13 2010, 14:04
- - 2Bdecided   Yes, it's important to remember that once the ...   Jul 12 2010, 13:07
- - botface   QUOTE If you can hear mistracking then clearly I d...   Jul 13 2010, 09:00
- - Knowzy   QUOTE (botface @ Jul 13 2010, 01:00) If y...   Jul 13 2010, 18:11
- - Knowzy   The Short Version I found my tracking force: 4 gra...   Jul 14 2010, 06:20
|- - cliveb   QUOTE (Knowzy @ Jul 14 2010, 06:20) Then ...   Jul 14 2010, 11:02
|- - Knowzy   QUOTE (cliveb @ Jul 14 2010, 03:02) envir...   Jul 15 2010, 16:16
- - Knowzy   I'm now using 5 grams of tracking force (the t...   Jul 26 2010, 22:48
- - botface   What you're describing can often be the result...   Jul 27 2010, 09:34
|- - Knowzy   QUOTE (botface @ Jul 27 2010, 01:34) What...   Jul 27 2010, 16:45
|- - Snackcakes   I have the same table. this is some great info.   Sep 20 2011, 18:46
- - Glenn Gundlach   When I worked in stereo stores, I recommended usin...   Sep 20 2011, 23:08
- - Defkon 1   sorry Im very new to this forum and I can't se...   Dec 14 2013, 05:26


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