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Some New Evidence that Generation Y May Prefer Accurate Sound
solive
post Jun 19 2010, 04:18
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I posted a new blog posting that summarizes some recent experimental evidence where I tested a group of teenagers' preferences in loudspeakers and MP3 versus CD music formats. This is just the beginning of a more thorough study, so the results are very preliminary. Still I thought it would be interesting to get some feedback.

I could find no evidence that these high school students preferred the "sizzling sounds of MP3" over higher quality lossless formats, as reported by Jonathan Berger. I also found they preferred the most accurate, neutral loudspeakers when given the opportunity to hear and compare them with something less accurate and neutral.

These results are not too surprising to me, but the media seems to have been reporting a different story over the past year.


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post Jun 20 2010, 13:29
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QUOTE (cyberdux @ Jun 20 2010, 02:46) *
Have you conducted the same experiment by gender? I would find those results very interesting.


Don't women have a higher upper limit anyway? That one woman's 100% CD preference seems to support that.

QUOTE (odigg @ Jun 20 2010, 08:58) *
Damn youth and their 16khz+ hearing. Maybe that's why they can hear the difference between 128kpbs lossy and CDs.

Huh, my hearing cuts off at ~17+KHz*, at least on my current setup. Is 28 still "youth"? smile.gif


*) measured with the audiocheck.net downloaded mp3 and subsequently with foobar's tone:// and Audacity's Chirp. Not that I can hear any of it when there's tons of music below 17, naturally.

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Cubist Castle
post Jun 23 2010, 11:29
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QUOTE (dhromed @ Jun 20 2010, 13:29) *
QUOTE (cyberdux @ Jun 20 2010, 02:46) *
Have you conducted the same experiment by gender? I would find those results very interesting.


Don't women have a higher upper limit anyway? That one woman's 100% CD preference seems to support that.

It's possible that it's been suggested by older data taken for example when men were more likely to have spent time working in heavy industry with inadequate hearing protection, but I've never heard anyone claim women naturally have a higher upper limit to hearing. If anyone knows otherwise please send me a reference since I'd be interested to read.
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