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vasiukoff
post Mar 15 2010, 17:29
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Hello, All!
Does anyone know how to create iso.wv image using mkisofs?
Comand mkisofs -r -J -o mydisc.iso.wv myfolder does not work. sad.gif

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post Mar 19 2010, 11:13
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Dears,

Now I understand how it works (thanks to David ) and want to explain to other people how to use WavPack with file containers or media containers (thanks to Skamp). Probably it will be interesting for all.

QUOTE (Fandango @ Mar 18 2010, 01:51) *
Besides thread starter already said he wants to know about iso.wv only. Because it seems he wants to upload CD rips with some filesharing program. It seems the only people in the world who would want to listen to such a joke of a "file format" are some filesharers.


I'm not agree with Fandango — my goal just make an images of my legal CD's for myself.

I. File containers.

How it works and why it works.


QUOTE (Fandango @ Mar 17 2010, 21:48) *
But I wonder why a player would support such a file if not because of a bug. What if that bug gets fixed? You can't play back those ISO images anymore.


It works because the WavPack decoder library (and command-line program) will skip up to 1 MB of "garbage" looking for a WavPack header before giving up. So, if «garbage» smaller than 1MB and it's data — data of file container — it will works normally and it's not a bug. This allows to use several types of a such containers: ZIP, 7-ZIP (without compression, of course) etc and ISO9660.

Advantage of ZIP, 7-ZIP etc in that you can easily prepare a such image. Just make at the first time archive (for example, with 7-zip) with only WV file and then append to this archive other data — WV file will be in the «head» of archive. After that rename it into .WV and append to this file tags (CUE+Art Cover) with your favorite tag editor (for example, mp3tag and foobar2000).

Advantage of ISO9660 (comparing with ZIP, 7-ZIP etc) in that you can use it also like DATA CD image: you can burn it (as DATA CD), you can play with it using Daemon tools, you can open it by WinRAR, WinZIP, 7-ZIP like ordinary archive. It's just a little bit more possibilities than using ZIP, 7-ZIP etc. Creation algorithm is the same: first time you add WV file and after you append to ISO9660 image other data. Rockridge and Joilet recommended. If you wnat to use mkisofs you must use it with -sort option. So, command like:

mkisofs -sort sort.txt -r -J -o myfile.iso.wv myfolderwithalldata


will works correctly. See man mkisofs for details.

Summary of advantages:
  • You have only one file for all what you want.
  • It will works, if your player is support WavPack with embedded CUE.
  • Even if your player is not support embedded CUE (but support WavPack) you cal listen big «solid» file.
  • It's easy to store it and use it.



Summary of disadvantages:
  • You need to use at least two programs (for packing and tagging).
  • You have to read a lot of flood in this topic (joke!) wink.gif.


II. Media container Matroska.

Martoska is developed especially to store in one file several different files.

How to use

Easiest way on Windows OS - you need to install mkvtoolnix [b] and [b] MkvExtractGUI (see http://www.matroska.org/ ) for pack and unpack matroska audio files (mka). See original Matroska documentation how to do it.
Note: to make a cover of disc just attach image with name cover.(jpg|png).

Summary of advantages:
  • Matroska is specially designed for this purpose. If you don't want to extract data from Matroska audio container - mkvtoolnix — it's the only tool what you need.


Summary of disadvantages:
  • Matroska not so widely supported as «native» WavPack.
  • If you need to extract data — you need a special program for this purpose (mkvextract or MkvExtractGUI).
  • Command line syntax of mkvextract does not have a simple command to extract all data from container — you have to know TID etc (but MkvExtractGUI can).
  • Not all players understand CUE and cover art images correctly in mka files. For example, VLC and Windows Media Players (with DirectShow drivers) don't understand CUE. VLC does not shows cover art. Windows Media Player shows last attached image as cover.


NOTE
Foobar2000 works normally with all of described methods.


Best regards,
Artem.
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- vasiukoff   iso.wv creation with mkisofs   Mar 15 2010, 17:29
- - dv1989   Let's see, "mkisofs"… What function ...   Mar 15 2010, 20:51
|- - vasiukoff   QUOTE (dv1989 @ Mar 15 2010, 22:51) I...   Mar 16 2010, 11:58
- - bryant   I would be interested in downloading and trying su...   Mar 16 2010, 16:07
|- - vasiukoff   QUOTE (bryant @ Mar 16 2010, 18:07) I wou...   Mar 16 2010, 16:15
- - lvqcl   IIRC .WV file should be the very first file inside...   Mar 16 2010, 17:46
|- - vasiukoff   QUOTE (lvqcl @ Mar 16 2010, 19:46) IIRC ....   Mar 17 2010, 13:58
- - greynol   I'm having this debate elsewhere. The point i...   Mar 16 2010, 18:36
- - skamp   Well, will someone please explain in detail what i...   Mar 17 2010, 10:56
|- - vasiukoff   QUOTE (skamp @ Mar 17 2010, 12:56) Well, ...   Mar 17 2010, 11:03
- - dv1989   Since (I hope) no one would want to burn a CD from...   Mar 17 2010, 11:16
|- - vasiukoff   QUOTE (dv1989 @ Mar 17 2010, 13:16) Since...   Mar 17 2010, 13:49
- - hlloyge   It is not ISO image; it is wv + cue + whatever fil...   Mar 17 2010, 13:07
|- - vasiukoff   QUOTE (hlloyge @ Mar 17 2010, 15:07) It i...   Mar 17 2010, 13:26
|- - WonderSlug   QUOTE (vasiukoff @ Mar 17 2010, 04:26) QU...   Mar 17 2010, 19:15
|- - vasiukoff   QUOTE (WonderSlug @ Mar 17 2010, 21:15) Q...   Mar 18 2010, 08:35
- - dv1989   QUOTE (vasiukoff @ Mar 17 2010, 12:49) QU...   Mar 17 2010, 14:59
|- - vasiukoff   QUOTE (dv1989 @ Mar 17 2010, 16:59) QUOTE...   Mar 17 2010, 15:26
- - dv1989   I understand what it is: storing an audio CD image...   Mar 17 2010, 15:35
|- - vasiukoff   QUOTE (dv1989 @ Mar 17 2010, 17:35) I und...   Mar 17 2010, 16:00
- - dv1989   I see your point, but still don't think ISO is...   Mar 17 2010, 16:14
|- - vasiukoff   QUOTE (dv1989 @ Mar 17 2010, 18:14) I see...   Mar 17 2010, 16:22
|- - skamp   QUOTE (vasiukoff @ Mar 17 2010, 16:22) Bu...   Mar 17 2010, 16:40
|- - vasiukoff   QUOTE (skamp @ Mar 17 2010, 18:40) QUOTE ...   Mar 17 2010, 16:49
|- - skamp   QUOTE (vasiukoff @ Mar 17 2010, 16:49) Wa...   Mar 17 2010, 19:01
||- - vasiukoff   QUOTE (skamp @ Mar 17 2010, 21:01) QUOTE ...   Mar 18 2010, 10:36
||- - skamp   QUOTE (vasiukoff @ Mar 18 2010, 10:36) I ...   Mar 18 2010, 10:44
||- - vasiukoff   QUOTE (skamp @ Mar 18 2010, 12:44) QUOTE ...   Mar 18 2010, 11:04
|- - odyssey   QUOTE (vasiukoff @ Mar 17 2010, 16:49) QU...   Mar 17 2010, 22:05
|- - Fandango   QUOTE (odyssey @ Mar 17 2010, 22:05) So, ...   Mar 17 2010, 23:51
- - dv1989   I've read that files in an uncompressed archiv...   Mar 17 2010, 16:54
|- - vasiukoff   QUOTE (dv1989 @ Mar 17 2010, 18:54) I...   Mar 17 2010, 17:08
- - vasiukoff   DEARS! LET'S TALK ABOUT ONLY THE REAL THIN...   Mar 17 2010, 17:18
- - dv1989   Three bags full, sir… Stating my opinion th...   Mar 17 2010, 17:24
|- - vasiukoff   QUOTE (dv1989 @ Mar 17 2010, 19:24) Three...   Mar 17 2010, 17:33
- - Fandango   I guess multi-session images would be one way of p...   Mar 17 2010, 19:48
|- - vasiukoff   QUOTE (Fandango @ Mar 17 2010, 21:48) I g...   Mar 18 2010, 08:43
- - odyssey   If just the format defined albumcover...   Mar 17 2010, 23:43
|- - vasiukoff   QUOTE (odyssey @ Mar 18 2010, 01:43) If j...   Mar 18 2010, 08:52
- - greynol   ...and then we get flooded with posts asking for h...   Mar 18 2010, 00:02
- - vasiukoff   Dears, Now I understand how it works (thanks to D...   Mar 19 2010, 11:13


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