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CGC
post Feb 2 2010, 14:26
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Hi,

I am new to this forum and to the use of these software programs. I need some guidance.

My intent is to convert my CD collection, first to FLAC then to MP3. I have read a lot on the subject, maybe too much as it is starting to confuse me, but my goal is to create the best possible MP3 files I can. I am not concerned about file size.

I believe I have successfully setup EAC andhave converted a couple of test CDs to FLAC. I then installed RazorLame and the latest version of LAME within the same folder.

Not real confident at the RazorLame settings but I believe I have it set to the best VBR (320) settings. However, When I attempt to add the FLAC files to RazorLame, nothing appears within the program. I used the program's 'Add File' procedure and also tried to drag and drop the FLAC files into RazorLame to no avail. Nothing appears in the program.

Probably something obvious but the reason is escaping me. Thanks in advance for any help which can be provided to this novice.

Chris
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A replaygain-based approach, but using an implementation that's actually widely supported. Putting RG information in the Lame header is not; putting it in an ID3v2 tag or APE tag (perhaps to a lesser extent) is. Altering the level of the audio data itself is universally supported, of course.

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post Feb 14 2010, 17:31
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QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 9 2010, 12:25) *
A replaygain-based approach, but using an implementation that's actually widely supported. Putting RG information in the Lame header is not; putting it in an ID3v2 tag or APE tag (perhaps to a lesser extent) is. Altering the level of the audio data itself is universally supported, of course.



Hi,

I am back with yet another question. As I mentioned earlier, my goal is to create the best possible MP3 disc possible. This was brought about by my acquisition of The Beatles Remastered Stereo collection. I have been ripping these discs with the settings you provided but as I reach the end of this stage I realize that I may still be missing the mark, so-to-speak.

There are several songs in their catalog that play in succession. Also, I like to remove the dead-air gaps at either end of the songs and even, include fade-in and maybe a fade-out between songs. To accomplish this, in the past anyway, I would use the Sound Editor feature in my Roxio suite. But I realized that when I did this, I was required to save the edited file and I seem to remember that I have to select certain MP3 settings at that time which I believe would undo everything I have accomplished using EAC.

Would I be able to accomplish this with EAC settings changes or is there an editor software out there that would allow me to make the desired changes without losing my optimum MP3 settings created when ripping with EAC? Or, would I first have to rip to FLAC, let's say, do the sound editing then convert to MP3?

Thanks for your continued patience and help.

Chris
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post Feb 14 2010, 19:23
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QUOTE (CGC @ Feb 14 2010, 11:31) *
Would I be able to accomplish this with EAC settings changes or is there an editor software out there that would allow me to make the desired changes without losing my optimum MP3 settings created when ripping with EAC? Or, would I first have to rip to FLAC, let's say, do the sound editing then convert to MP3?

No and No (exception: if the tracks are merged into a single file prior to encoding). Gaps are introduced at the beginning and end of a file during the mp3 encoding and decoding (playback) process.

The LAME mp3 encoder offers a method of defeating these gaps during playback. It stores encoder delay and padding information in the file header which enables a compatible player to compensate and provide seamless playback. If your player does not support gapless playback, then merging tracks is the only other option.

Wiki article about gapless playback.
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QUOTE (trout @ Feb 14 2010, 13:23) *
QUOTE (CGC @ Feb 14 2010, 11:31) *
Would I be able to accomplish this with EAC settings changes or is there an editor software out there that would allow me to make the desired changes without losing my optimum MP3 settings created when ripping with EAC? Or, would I first have to rip to FLAC, let's say, do the sound editing then convert to MP3?

No and No (exception: if the tracks are merged into a single file prior to encoding). Gaps are introduced at the beginning and end of a file during the mp3 encoding and decoding (playback) process.

The LAME mp3 encoder offers a method of defeating these gaps during playback. It stores encoder delay and padding information in the file header which enables a compatible player to compensate and provide seamless playback. If your player does not support gapless playback, then merging tracks is the only other option.

Wiki article about gapless playback.



I am using LAME with EAC. I guess I will not know if my players support gapless playback until I try a created disc in them, but, are there LAME settings that are needed to be inserted to accomplish defeating these gaps?

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QUOTE (CGC @ Feb 14 2010, 13:31) *
I am using LAME with EAC. I guess I will not know if my players support gapless playback until I try a created disc in them, but, are there LAME settings that are needed to be inserted to accomplish defeating these gaps?

There is an OLD "nogap" switch which works by breaking mp3s up on frame boundaries instead of strictly on track boundaries, but should NOT be used w/o an understanding of your needs. Most every player today is competent enough to recognize the gap information present in the LAME header by default.


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- CGC   RazorLame help   Feb 2 2010, 14:26
- - .halverhahn   Razorlame... good old time. I'm using today fo...   Feb 2 2010, 14:50
- - lvqcl   QUOTE (CGC @ Feb 2 2010, 16:26) my goal i...   Feb 2 2010, 17:03
|- - CGC   QUOTE (lvqcl @ Feb 2 2010, 11:03) QUOTE (...   Feb 2 2010, 18:32
- - DVDdoug   For converting FLAC to MP3, try: XRECODE* LameDrop...   Feb 2 2010, 19:07
- - trout   For a simple and easy to use conversion tool, try ...   Feb 2 2010, 19:11
- - lvqcl   Vote for foobar2000. Just install it in portable m...   Feb 2 2010, 19:11
|- - CGC   QUOTE (lvqcl @ Feb 2 2010, 13:11) Vote fo...   Feb 2 2010, 19:50
- - pdq   Best bitrate or best quality? If you mean highest ...   Feb 2 2010, 19:55
|- - CGC   QUOTE (pdq @ Feb 2 2010, 13:55) Best bitr...   Feb 2 2010, 20:07
|- - CGC   QUOTE (pdq @ Feb 2 2010, 13:55) Best bitr...   Feb 4 2010, 03:38
- - DVDdoug   QUOTE Best quality. Does this VBR setting apply to...   Feb 2 2010, 20:34
- - greynol   Different programs might present different interfa...   Feb 2 2010, 20:39
|- - CGC   QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 2 2010, 14:39) Diffe...   Feb 2 2010, 21:23
- - greynol   For EAC look through these: http://wiki.hydrogenau...   Feb 2 2010, 21:27
- - trout   It should output with joint stereo by default. Are...   Feb 4 2010, 04:25
|- - CGC   QUOTE (trout @ Feb 3 2010, 22:25) It shou...   Feb 4 2010, 14:31
- - johnsonlam   QUOTE (CGC @ Feb 2 2010, 21:26) Not real ...   Feb 4 2010, 05:14
- - trout   QUOTE ... I got the impression that it is most ben...   Feb 6 2010, 19:55
|- - CGC   QUOTE (trout @ Feb 6 2010, 13:55) QUOTE ....   Feb 6 2010, 20:13
- - trout   QUOTE Yes, they are playable. That's good, but...   Feb 6 2010, 21:22
|- - CGC   QUOTE (trout @ Feb 6 2010, 15:22) QUOTE Y...   Feb 6 2010, 21:31
- - evereux   Some pointers on using Foobar2000 if you wish to c...   Feb 6 2010, 21:58
|- - CGC   QUOTE (evereux @ Feb 6 2010, 15:58) Some ...   Feb 6 2010, 22:34
- - lvqcl   QUOTE Seems the best or extreme setting is restric...   Feb 6 2010, 23:05
|- - CGC   QUOTE (lvqcl @ Feb 6 2010, 17:05) QUOTE S...   Feb 7 2010, 20:13
|- - greynol   QUOTE (CGC @ Feb 7 2010, 11:13) How do I ...   Feb 7 2010, 20:18
|- - CGC   QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 7 2010, 14:18) QUOTE...   Feb 7 2010, 20:32
- - greynol   Joint stereo is done by default. The point to all...   Feb 7 2010, 20:58
|- - CGC   QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 7 2010, 14:58) Joint...   Feb 7 2010, 21:11
- - greynol   http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=EAC_...   Feb 7 2010, 21:16
|- - CGC   QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 7 2010, 15:16) http:...   Feb 7 2010, 21:54
- - greynol   http://lame.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*...l#-no...   Feb 7 2010, 22:02
|- - CGC   QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 7 2010, 16:02) http:...   Feb 7 2010, 22:10
- - greynol   You're welcome. If you tag and how and wheth...   Feb 7 2010, 22:18
|- - CGC   QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 7 2010, 16:18) You...   Feb 9 2010, 18:17
- - greynol   A replaygain-based approach, but using an implemen...   Feb 9 2010, 18:25
|- - CGC   QUOTE (greynol @ Feb 9 2010, 12:25) A rep...   Feb 14 2010, 17:31
|- - Soap   Any competent player will play LAME MP3 and/or FLA...   Feb 14 2010, 17:42
|- - trout   QUOTE (CGC @ Feb 14 2010, 11:31) Would I ...   Feb 14 2010, 19:23
|- - CGC   QUOTE (trout @ Feb 14 2010, 13:23) QUOTE ...   Feb 14 2010, 19:31
|- - Soap   QUOTE (CGC @ Feb 14 2010, 13:31) I am usi...   Feb 14 2010, 19:36
|- - greynol   QUOTE (CGC @ Feb 14 2010, 10:31) are ther...   Feb 14 2010, 19:40
- - CGC   I suppose it would be advantageous to find an edit...   Feb 15 2010, 20:01
|- - trout   QUOTE (CGC @ Feb 15 2010, 14:01) I suppos...   Feb 15 2010, 23:25
|- - CGC   QUOTE (trout @ Feb 15 2010, 17:25) QUOTE ...   Feb 16 2010, 14:55
- - pdq   First, if Roxio allows you to save as .wav then th...   Feb 16 2010, 16:34
|- - CGC   QUOTE (pdq @ Feb 16 2010, 10:34) First, i...   Feb 16 2010, 18:14
|- - trout   QUOTE (CGC @ Feb 16 2010, 12:14) I do not...   Feb 17 2010, 16:10
- - dv1989   There's no difference. Converting FLAC to WAV ...   Feb 16 2010, 18:30
|- - CGC   QUOTE (dv1989 @ Feb 16 2010, 12:30) There...   Feb 17 2010, 14:07
- - dv1989   Please read my post again. No application will edi...   Feb 17 2010, 14:25
|- - CGC   QUOTE (dv1989 @ Feb 17 2010, 08:25) Pleas...   Feb 17 2010, 15:26
- - pdq   Do NOT use mp3 as any kind of intermediate step. U...   Feb 17 2010, 15:35
|- - CGC   QUOTE (pdq @ Feb 17 2010, 09:35) Do NOT u...   Feb 18 2010, 14:11
- - CGC   My target is a MP3 CD.   Feb 17 2010, 15:39
- - pdq   As long as "edited the file" only means ...   Feb 18 2010, 14:37
- - CGC   QUOTE (pdq @ Feb 18 2010, 08:37) As long ...   Feb 18 2010, 15:10


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