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2Bdecided
post Mar 24 2003, 17:01
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I'm sure this has been asked before, but I can't find it, and it's not in the FAQ (it should be - please!)

On which samples is --alt-preset extreme audibly better than --alt-preset standard.
On which samples is --alt-preset insane audibly better than --alt-preset extreme.
On which samples is --alt-preset insane not transparent?

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post Apr 1 2003, 10:24
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JohnV did say exactly that, but Dibrom said "and by specifying -Z you may end up degrading quality in cases as well."

I can't figure out if he had any specific for saying this, because it came in one of the (at the time) very frequent replies which essentially said "Look, don't worry about the switches which are in --alt-preset standard, because there are things which can't be accessed from the command line; and don't try to improve it by adding other switches, because it's already as good as it can get, and more importantly, you'll almost certainly make it worse by trying to 'tweak' it".

So maybe he had a very specific problem in mind, or maybe he was just trying to stop people messing with the --alt-presets.

Dibrom - please tell us!

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- 2Bdecided   samples where aps or ape has a problem   Mar 24 2003, 17:01
- - Wombat   There are some, http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/foru...   Mar 24 2003, 18:40
- - Pio2001   QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Mar 24 2003 - 07:01 PM)On ...   Mar 24 2003, 22:11
- - KikeG   For me, the trumpets.wav sample sounds much more t...   Mar 24 2003, 23:12
- - 2Bdecided   Thank you all for your responses. I went hunting a...   Mar 25 2003, 17:25
- - Pio2001   QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Mar 25 2003 - 07:25 PM)bad...   Mar 25 2003, 20:50
- - guruboolez   --alt-preset VBR are suffering with harpsichord. E...   Mar 25 2003, 21:11
- - 2Bdecided   guruboolez - thank you - you're right! W...   Mar 26 2003, 11:58
- - 2Bdecided   QUOTE (Pio2001 @ Mar 25 2003 - 07:50 PM)The p...   Mar 26 2003, 11:59
- - guruboolez   · Jump is a song from Van Halen (1984 album, but n...   Mar 26 2003, 12:03
- - 2Bdecided   Reading about the 3.94 alphas, I followed this sug...   Mar 26 2003, 16:57
- - 2Bdecided   At the risk of being a saddo who just bumps his ow...   Mar 27 2003, 11:10
- - KikeG   QUOTE (guruboolez @ Mar 25 2003 - 09:11 PM)In...   Mar 27 2003, 11:56
- - Dibrom   QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Mar 25 2003 - 09:25 AM)P.S...   Mar 27 2003, 12:02
- - Dibrom   QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Mar 26 2003 - 08:57 AM)aps...   Mar 27 2003, 12:07
- - 2Bdecided   Thank you.   Mar 27 2003, 13:25
- - 2Bdecided   To settle aps -Z vs ape -Z vs api in my own mind, ...   Mar 27 2003, 14:01
- - 2Bdecided   ?   Mar 28 2003, 11:27
- - CiTay   Hmm, --aps -Z files aren't really that much bi...   Mar 28 2003, 12:40
- - 2Bdecided   ? Sorry to bump again, but it's kind of impor...   Mar 31 2003, 11:16
- - DickD   I was searching for info on how -Z worked and foun...   Mar 31 2003, 17:14
- - KikeG   IIRC, JohnV said that there's no problem in us...   Apr 1 2003, 10:05
- - 2Bdecided   JohnV did say exactly that, but Dibrom said ...   Apr 1 2003, 10:24
- - 2Bdecided   ? With the many tests samples I've been try...   Apr 3 2003, 15:52
- - JohnV   It has been said many times that Gpsycho has often...   Apr 3 2003, 17:57
- - Dibrom   QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Apr 1 2003 - 02:24 AM)So m...   Apr 3 2003, 18:17
- - DickD   Just guessing (sorry!) but perhaps -Z could ma...   Apr 3 2003, 20:15
- - 2Bdecided   QUOTE (JohnV @ Apr 3 2003 - 04:57 PM)It has b...   Apr 4 2003, 10:53
- - 2Bdecided   QUOTE (Dibrom @ Apr 3 2003 - 05:17 PM)The poi...   Apr 4 2003, 11:11
- - Gabriel   David, would you try adding --athtype 0 to preset ...   Apr 4 2003, 11:20
- - Wombat   I use aps -Z for a long time now. I donīt encode m...   Apr 4 2003, 11:27
- - JohnV   QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Apr 4 2003 - 01:11 PM)You ...   Apr 4 2003, 12:43
- - CiTay   Okay, i changed the List of recommended LAME setti...   Apr 4 2003, 15:16
- - 2Bdecided   QUOTE (Gabriel @ Apr 4 2003 - 10:20 AM)David,...   Apr 4 2003, 16:25
- - 2Bdecided   JohnV - thanks for that long explanation. It would...   Apr 4 2003, 16:31
- - ff123   2BDecided, Thanks for that list of samples. I...   Apr 4 2003, 16:50
- - user   --alt-preset fast standard / extreme ? dev0: ...   Apr 11 2003, 14:02
- - Frank Klemm   QUOTE (JohnV @ Apr 4 2003 - 01:43 PM)Yes, usi...   Apr 11 2003, 15:41
- - 2Bdecided   QUOTE (user @ Apr 11 2003 - 01:02 PM)--alt-pr...   Apr 11 2003, 16:30


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