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Squeller
post Jan 1 2010, 12:54
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Happy new year! Oh, suffering from a headache. Was back home at 5am biggrin.gif

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The donation button has been removed due to PayPal being thieves.

-v please

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kyrio
post Jan 25 2010, 22:37
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People need to calm the shit down and learn what a joke is.

Edit: They usually come accompanied with emoticons and "*lol*".

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Still waiting for foo_paypal.

> Not (really) a joke.
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post Feb 20 2010, 07:50
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QUOTE (foognak @ Feb 20 2010, 03:58) *
Still waiting for foo_paypal.

> Not (really) a joke.


Would maybe be more constructive with a foo_click-the-ads, which goes to the f2k website and opens the ads (assuming pay-per-click).


Not to take a stand in this particular case, but maybe for a bit of background information from a former finance geek:
- Banks -- and other financial institutions -- are required to take certain means against money laundry and terrorism-funding.
- It may or may not be that PayPal, with all the less-personal-id-required-than-your-local-bank-does, is expected to take more careful measures; in the very least it is most probably so that their business model would be threatened if it were found that personal PayPal accounts were routinely abused for money laundry or funding terrorist groups.
- So, they'd rather be erring on the safe side. And their services are so useful that a few dissatisfied customers won't ruin the business. But the financial supervisory authorities could, if it is found that the business model facilitates m-l&t-f.
- So, triggered by transaction behaviour, they will ask questions. They want you to prove that nothing wrong is going on in here. Here we have a programmer who receives money for his software. Of course he can point towards his web site which says these are "donations" and not taxable income, but he cannot expect that a financial institution does that job for him. And they would usually require more information than that, because if I were to pay him for work, I could use this button in order to evade taxes. And he could spend the money directly from the PayPal account. Or transfer them to his local jihadist.
- What happens if you don't supply the documentation? The case remains in limbo. No amount is being paid to the potential money launderer, and one case less to handle for PayPal's support centre.
- What about this "donate to charity" thing? Sounds unusual to me, but effectively solves the problem; if you ask that your money go to a shelter for homeless cats, then they can be fairly convinced that you don't evade tax on this money you have not been able to receive or spend. (You could probably ask for the money to be refunded to whomever paid them.)


There are probably quite a few web sites, services and pieces of software that generates at least a decent little sum of beer money, and some even make so much that it could be taxable. I hope in the very least that the trigger in this case was that there were a sufficient volume of donations. It would be well deserved.

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- Squeller   "The donation button has been removed ..."   Jan 1 2010, 12:54
- - Xezzy   I've got every symptom except headache Happy ...   Jan 1 2010, 15:48
- - kyrio   Really? No one saw this coming? No one here goes t...   Jan 1 2010, 17:14
- - Fandango   I didn't know about this, although I've re...   Jan 1 2010, 18:25
|- - twcinnh   QUOTE (Fandango @ Jan 1 2010, 13:25) I di...   Jan 2 2010, 02:50
- - Takaji   What's wrong with last.fm? It really is a sha...   Jan 1 2010, 20:44
- - Shemuel   It's called sending your credit card details t...   Jan 1 2010, 21:16
- - Zarggg   4chan is not a reliable source for news. Ever. QU...   Jan 1 2010, 23:26
|- - kyrio   QUOTE (Zarggg @ Jan 1 2010, 23:26) 4chan ...   Jan 2 2010, 20:31
- - Yirkha   PayPal decided that Peter was a nonprofit organiza...   Jan 1 2010, 23:44
- - Zarggg   Ouch. Yeah, that's a different story all toget...   Jan 2 2010, 02:05
- - Robertina   I am paying tribute to Peter for having the courag...   Jan 2 2010, 03:37
|- - foosion   QUOTE (Robertina @ Jan 2 2010, 03:37) Pay...   Jan 2 2010, 15:37
|- - Robertina   QUOTE (foosion @ Jan 2 2010, 03:37) PayPa...   Jan 2 2010, 17:31
- - shakey_snake   Sometimes I think it would be safer to route my mo...   Jan 2 2010, 03:42
- - freetochoose   I will never deal with PayPal again!!...   Jan 2 2010, 11:58
- - Peter   The donation experiment was interesting and the in...   Jan 2 2010, 16:36
|- - Xezzy   I guess Peter answered this: QUOTE I might try thi...   Jan 6 2010, 15:26
|- - Gambit   QUOTE (Xezzy @ Jan 6 2010, 15:26) I guess...   Jan 25 2010, 12:50
- - DasFox   PayPal has been pulling this crap for years, I...   Jan 2 2010, 23:36
- - AtaqueEG   Damn. I only gave 5 bucks a couple of weeks ago. I...   Jan 3 2010, 04:33
- - Axon   I mentioned this story to my wife and - surprising...   Jan 3 2010, 05:48
|- - twcinnh   QUOTE (Axon @ Jan 3 2010, 00:48) I mentio...   Jan 3 2010, 06:20
||- - Alexander Ostuni   Do a google search for pigs fly: Results 1-10 out ...   Jan 3 2010, 08:02
||- - twcinnh   QUOTE (Alexander Ostuni @ Jan 3 2010, 03...   Jan 3 2010, 16:17
|- - Robertina   QUOTE (Axon @ Jan 2 2010, 17:48) I mentio...   Jan 3 2010, 08:32
|- - Yirkha   QUOTE (Axon @ Jan 3 2010, 05:48) ... she ...   Jan 3 2010, 13:31
|- - Robertina   QUOTE (Axon @ Jan 2 2010, 17:48) what Pay...   Jan 4 2010, 13:34
- - Peter   Let me clarify: I'm not interested in using P...   Jan 3 2010, 11:24
|- - AtaqueEG   QUOTE (Peter @ Jan 3 2010, 05:24) Let me ...   Jan 4 2010, 04:58
- - Robertina    The incisive tone of my post apparently was not c...   Jan 3 2010, 13:21
- - kyrio   I haven't personally used them more than makin...   Jan 3 2010, 13:29
- - Axon   Let me restate my post in less politic terms: If...   Jan 3 2010, 13:45
|- - kode54   QUOTE (Axon @ Jan 3 2010, 04:45) If you a...   Jan 3 2010, 16:32
|- - boombaard   QUOTE (Axon @ Jan 3 2010, 14:45) Let me r...   Jan 8 2010, 11:39
- - kyrio   I stopped reading after "tax fraud".   Jan 3 2010, 14:04
|- - DasFox   QUOTE (kyrio @ Jan 3 2010, 08:04) I stopp...   Jan 12 2010, 22:04
- - odyssey   If Paypal think they can treat customers any way t...   Jan 3 2010, 14:21
- - Zamana   Which are the alternatives?   Jan 3 2010, 17:07
- - Hengest   QUOTE (AtaqueEG @ Jan 4 2010, 11:58) How ...   Jan 6 2010, 11:10
- - blargblarg   Maybe next edition of foobar should perform attack...   Jan 8 2010, 08:59
|- - foosion   QUOTE (blargblarg @ Jan 8 2010, 08:59) Ma...   Jan 8 2010, 09:18
- - blargblarg   Joking only. But I wouldn't care, as long a...   Jan 8 2010, 09:47
- - laofmoonster   This really upsets me, because it's the 4th or...   Jan 25 2010, 03:38
- - Xezzy   Lol. It was just a joke. You can't call somebo...   Jan 25 2010, 20:29
- - kyrio   People need to calm the shit down and learn what a...   Jan 25 2010, 22:37
- - foognak   Still waiting for foo_paypal. > Not (really) a...   Feb 20 2010, 03:58
- - Porcus   QUOTE (foognak @ Feb 20 2010, 03:58) Stil...   Feb 20 2010, 07:50
- - foognak   QUOTE (Porcus @ Feb 20 2010, 00:50) QUOTE...   Apr 12 2010, 16:38


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