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Squeller
post Jan 1 2010, 12:54
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Happy new year! Oh, suffering from a headache. Was back home at 5am biggrin.gif

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The donation button has been removed due to PayPal being thieves.

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Peter
post Jan 2 2010, 16:36
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The donation experiment was interesting and the initial response was really great.

However, after the first week, donation rates dropped to a level that would barely cover server bills. I do not have the luxury of knowing how this would have turned out in long run or how the rates would have changed with different site layout making the "donate" button harder to miss. I might try this again at some point later, if I find some reasonable alternative to PayPal.

It is clear that PayPal will suspend people's accounts without any legit reason given. I'm aware of multiple other people using PayPal in the exactly same manner as I did - including certain members of this forum, I won't point fingers at them or else they might get in trouble too. I responded to PayPal clarifying the situation as soon as I got their "warning letter", but there has been no further response from them at all. Sure I could try fighting them (emails, phone, whatever) to restore normal status of the account, but it sounds like more trouble than it's worth; I started transferring everything out on regular basis since the first signs of trouble so not much has been lost.

I would like to mention that the mildly annoying ads on our site easily cover foobar2000.org/hydrogenaudio.org server costs. I just wanted to let people who find my software to be particularly useful express their gratitude - this is how in my personal opinion purchasing of intellectual property should work: you decide whether, when and how much you pay.

Removal of the donation option will not in any way interfere with foobar2000 development.
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post Jan 6 2010, 15:26
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I guess Peter answered this:
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The donation experiment was interesting and the initial response was really great.

However, after the first week, donation rates dropped to a level that would barely cover server bills.

In other words, it's more profitable to start this experiment several times. Clever cool.gif
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post Jan 25 2010, 12:50
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QUOTE (Xezzy @ Jan 6 2010, 15:26) *
I guess Peter answered this:
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I might try this again at some point later, if I find some reasonable alternative to PayPal.


QUOTE ( @ Jan 2 2010, 16:36) *
The donation experiment was interesting and the initial response was really great.

However, after the first week, donation rates dropped to a level that would barely cover server bills.

In other words, it's more profitable to start this experiment several times. Clever cool.gif


A bit late but I could not resists here. With all due respect, you sir are an idiot. You have NO idea how much time and money goes into the development of an application like foobar and how selfless Peter has been over the YEARS, otherwise you would not have the gall to suggest something like that.


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- Squeller   "The donation button has been removed ..."   Jan 1 2010, 12:54
- - Xezzy   I've got every symptom except headache Happy ...   Jan 1 2010, 15:48
- - kyrio   Really? No one saw this coming? No one here goes t...   Jan 1 2010, 17:14
- - Fandango   I didn't know about this, although I've re...   Jan 1 2010, 18:25
|- - twcinnh   QUOTE (Fandango @ Jan 1 2010, 13:25) I di...   Jan 2 2010, 02:50
- - Takaji   What's wrong with last.fm? It really is a sha...   Jan 1 2010, 20:44
- - Shemuel   It's called sending your credit card details t...   Jan 1 2010, 21:16
- - Zarggg   4chan is not a reliable source for news. Ever. QU...   Jan 1 2010, 23:26
|- - kyrio   QUOTE (Zarggg @ Jan 1 2010, 23:26) 4chan ...   Jan 2 2010, 20:31
- - Yirkha   PayPal decided that Peter was a nonprofit organiza...   Jan 1 2010, 23:44
- - Zarggg   Ouch. Yeah, that's a different story all toget...   Jan 2 2010, 02:05
- - Robertina   I am paying tribute to Peter for having the courag...   Jan 2 2010, 03:37
|- - foosion   QUOTE (Robertina @ Jan 2 2010, 03:37) Pay...   Jan 2 2010, 15:37
|- - Robertina   QUOTE (foosion @ Jan 2 2010, 03:37) PayPa...   Jan 2 2010, 17:31
- - shakey_snake   Sometimes I think it would be safer to route my mo...   Jan 2 2010, 03:42
- - freetochoose   I will never deal with PayPal again!!...   Jan 2 2010, 11:58
- - Peter   The donation experiment was interesting and the in...   Jan 2 2010, 16:36
|- - Xezzy   I guess Peter answered this: QUOTE I might try thi...   Jan 6 2010, 15:26
|- - Gambit   QUOTE (Xezzy @ Jan 6 2010, 15:26) I guess...   Jan 25 2010, 12:50
- - DasFox   PayPal has been pulling this crap for years, I...   Jan 2 2010, 23:36
- - AtaqueEG   Damn. I only gave 5 bucks a couple of weeks ago. I...   Jan 3 2010, 04:33
- - Axon   I mentioned this story to my wife and - surprising...   Jan 3 2010, 05:48
|- - twcinnh   QUOTE (Axon @ Jan 3 2010, 00:48) I mentio...   Jan 3 2010, 06:20
||- - Alexander Ostuni   Do a google search for pigs fly: Results 1-10 out ...   Jan 3 2010, 08:02
||- - twcinnh   QUOTE (Alexander Ostuni @ Jan 3 2010, 03...   Jan 3 2010, 16:17
|- - Robertina   QUOTE (Axon @ Jan 2 2010, 17:48) I mentio...   Jan 3 2010, 08:32
|- - Yirkha   QUOTE (Axon @ Jan 3 2010, 05:48) ... she ...   Jan 3 2010, 13:31
|- - Robertina   QUOTE (Axon @ Jan 2 2010, 17:48) what Pay...   Jan 4 2010, 13:34
- - Peter   Let me clarify: I'm not interested in using P...   Jan 3 2010, 11:24
|- - AtaqueEG   QUOTE (Peter @ Jan 3 2010, 05:24) Let me ...   Jan 4 2010, 04:58
- - Robertina    The incisive tone of my post apparently was not c...   Jan 3 2010, 13:21
- - kyrio   I haven't personally used them more than makin...   Jan 3 2010, 13:29
- - Axon   Let me restate my post in less politic terms: If...   Jan 3 2010, 13:45
|- - kode54   QUOTE (Axon @ Jan 3 2010, 04:45) If you a...   Jan 3 2010, 16:32
|- - boombaard   QUOTE (Axon @ Jan 3 2010, 14:45) Let me r...   Jan 8 2010, 11:39
- - kyrio   I stopped reading after "tax fraud".   Jan 3 2010, 14:04
|- - DasFox   QUOTE (kyrio @ Jan 3 2010, 08:04) I stopp...   Jan 12 2010, 22:04
- - odyssey   If Paypal think they can treat customers any way t...   Jan 3 2010, 14:21
- - Zamana   Which are the alternatives?   Jan 3 2010, 17:07
- - Hengest   QUOTE (AtaqueEG @ Jan 4 2010, 11:58) How ...   Jan 6 2010, 11:10
- - blargblarg   Maybe next edition of foobar should perform attack...   Jan 8 2010, 08:59
|- - foosion   QUOTE (blargblarg @ Jan 8 2010, 08:59) Ma...   Jan 8 2010, 09:18
- - blargblarg   Joking only. But I wouldn't care, as long a...   Jan 8 2010, 09:47
- - laofmoonster   This really upsets me, because it's the 4th or...   Jan 25 2010, 03:38
- - Xezzy   Lol. It was just a joke. You can't call somebo...   Jan 25 2010, 20:29
- - kyrio   People need to calm the shit down and learn what a...   Jan 25 2010, 22:37
- - foognak   Still waiting for foo_paypal. > Not (really) a...   Feb 20 2010, 03:58
- - Porcus   QUOTE (foognak @ Feb 20 2010, 03:58) Stil...   Feb 20 2010, 07:50
- - foognak   QUOTE (Porcus @ Feb 20 2010, 00:50) QUOTE...   Apr 12 2010, 16:38


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