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Squeller
post Jan 1 2010, 12:54
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The donation button has been removed due to PayPal being thieves.

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Axon
post Jan 3 2010, 05:48
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I mentioned this story to my wife and - surprisingly - she quite forcefully blew it off as hot air. She's dealt very heavily with Paypal's support dept over the last few months, in the course of her work with a nonprofit, and not only did she find them very pleasant to deal with, she was able to deal with a regional support manager directly to answer the question as to whether or not PayPal requires tax return information from nonprofits. (The answer, fwiw, is no.)

Paypal nonprofit accounts require 503c status, and they used to not ask for verification on this fact, but now they do. From what I understand presently - and IANAL, nor an accountant or a CPA, and am not that great at taxes - if the account was configured as a nonprofit, and is not owned by a 503c, then what PayPal has done is no different than what any other bank in the US would do.

... There is some organization behind foobar2000, right?

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post Jan 4 2010, 13:34
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QUOTE (Axon @ Jan 2 2010, 17:48) *
what PayPal has done is no different than what any other bank in the US would do.

The way American banks handle their business is the reason for our current global financial crisis. Or does your wife declare that drama also to be nothing than hot air because she herself finds her bank manager very pleasant to talk and to deal with? Also this topic is about an European situation, not an American. The question what any other bank in the US would do is irrelevantly.

I am sorry to say that but your posts in this thread let me lose respect for you, Axon. Respect which was based both on your long-time membership here and the amount of your posts.

Your first contribution * in this thread declares all posts published before your own as cackle. As an evidence for the accuracy of your assertion, you mention the experience of your wife. Your first mistake thereby is to pass a single subjective opinion as an objective fact, valid for the whole world. That is unscientifically. Your second mistake is to disparage all members which had reported other experiences than your wife as babblers. Decide yourself whether that is arrogance.

Your second contribution starts with a meaningless phrase which has nothing to do with what this topic is about:

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If you are committing tax fraud, do not blame PayPal for not letting it happen on their watch.

No one did, nor the first neither the second. Instead of a correction in content of your first post you do criminalize others. And that is scandalously. Later in this post you are stating yourself to know nearly nothing about the specifics of the situation you are talking and judging about.

In your last sentence ["Regardless, none of this should be discussed further in a public forum. Talk to a CPA, kids"] you are presenting yourself to us as a paternal friend who is giving some good fatherly advice. Do you think you have to inform the admins, moderators and members what discussions are suitable for a public room? Furthermore the HA servers are located in the Neverlands, not in the USA. What specifically knowledge in what do you have to give such an advice?

Robertina.

This long post was necessary, because its short version was completely misunderstood and I apparently failed to clarify what I am meaning and how angry I am about both Axion's post and PayPal's behavior.
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- Squeller   "The donation button has been removed ..."   Jan 1 2010, 12:54
- - Xezzy   I've got every symptom except headache Happy ...   Jan 1 2010, 15:48
- - kyrio   Really? No one saw this coming? No one here goes t...   Jan 1 2010, 17:14
- - Fandango   I didn't know about this, although I've re...   Jan 1 2010, 18:25
|- - twcinnh   QUOTE (Fandango @ Jan 1 2010, 13:25) I di...   Jan 2 2010, 02:50
- - Takaji   What's wrong with last.fm? It really is a sha...   Jan 1 2010, 20:44
- - Shemuel   It's called sending your credit card details t...   Jan 1 2010, 21:16
- - Zarggg   4chan is not a reliable source for news. Ever. QU...   Jan 1 2010, 23:26
|- - kyrio   QUOTE (Zarggg @ Jan 1 2010, 23:26) 4chan ...   Jan 2 2010, 20:31
- - Yirkha   PayPal decided that Peter was a nonprofit organiza...   Jan 1 2010, 23:44
- - Zarggg   Ouch. Yeah, that's a different story all toget...   Jan 2 2010, 02:05
- - Robertina   I am paying tribute to Peter for having the courag...   Jan 2 2010, 03:37
|- - foosion   QUOTE (Robertina @ Jan 2 2010, 03:37) Pay...   Jan 2 2010, 15:37
|- - Robertina   QUOTE (foosion @ Jan 2 2010, 03:37) PayPa...   Jan 2 2010, 17:31
- - shakey_snake   Sometimes I think it would be safer to route my mo...   Jan 2 2010, 03:42
- - freetochoose   I will never deal with PayPal again!!...   Jan 2 2010, 11:58
- - Peter   The donation experiment was interesting and the in...   Jan 2 2010, 16:36
|- - Xezzy   I guess Peter answered this: QUOTE I might try thi...   Jan 6 2010, 15:26
|- - Gambit   QUOTE (Xezzy @ Jan 6 2010, 15:26) I guess...   Jan 25 2010, 12:50
- - DasFox   PayPal has been pulling this crap for years, I...   Jan 2 2010, 23:36
- - AtaqueEG   Damn. I only gave 5 bucks a couple of weeks ago. I...   Jan 3 2010, 04:33
- - Axon   I mentioned this story to my wife and - surprising...   Jan 3 2010, 05:48
|- - twcinnh   QUOTE (Axon @ Jan 3 2010, 00:48) I mentio...   Jan 3 2010, 06:20
||- - Alexander Ostuni   Do a google search for pigs fly: Results 1-10 out ...   Jan 3 2010, 08:02
||- - twcinnh   QUOTE (Alexander Ostuni @ Jan 3 2010, 03...   Jan 3 2010, 16:17
|- - Robertina   QUOTE (Axon @ Jan 2 2010, 17:48) I mentio...   Jan 3 2010, 08:32
|- - Yirkha   QUOTE (Axon @ Jan 3 2010, 05:48) ... she ...   Jan 3 2010, 13:31
|- - Robertina   QUOTE (Axon @ Jan 2 2010, 17:48) what Pay...   Jan 4 2010, 13:34
- - Peter   Let me clarify: I'm not interested in using P...   Jan 3 2010, 11:24
|- - AtaqueEG   QUOTE (Peter @ Jan 3 2010, 05:24) Let me ...   Jan 4 2010, 04:58
- - Robertina    The incisive tone of my post apparently was not c...   Jan 3 2010, 13:21
- - kyrio   I haven't personally used them more than makin...   Jan 3 2010, 13:29
- - Axon   Let me restate my post in less politic terms: If...   Jan 3 2010, 13:45
|- - kode54   QUOTE (Axon @ Jan 3 2010, 04:45) If you a...   Jan 3 2010, 16:32
|- - boombaard   QUOTE (Axon @ Jan 3 2010, 14:45) Let me r...   Jan 8 2010, 11:39
- - kyrio   I stopped reading after "tax fraud".   Jan 3 2010, 14:04
|- - DasFox   QUOTE (kyrio @ Jan 3 2010, 08:04) I stopp...   Jan 12 2010, 22:04
- - odyssey   If Paypal think they can treat customers any way t...   Jan 3 2010, 14:21
- - Zamana   Which are the alternatives?   Jan 3 2010, 17:07
- - Hengest   QUOTE (AtaqueEG @ Jan 4 2010, 11:58) How ...   Jan 6 2010, 11:10
- - blargblarg   Maybe next edition of foobar should perform attack...   Jan 8 2010, 08:59
|- - foosion   QUOTE (blargblarg @ Jan 8 2010, 08:59) Ma...   Jan 8 2010, 09:18
- - blargblarg   Joking only. But I wouldn't care, as long a...   Jan 8 2010, 09:47
- - laofmoonster   This really upsets me, because it's the 4th or...   Jan 25 2010, 03:38
- - Xezzy   Lol. It was just a joke. You can't call somebo...   Jan 25 2010, 20:29
- - kyrio   People need to calm the shit down and learn what a...   Jan 25 2010, 22:37
- - foognak   Still waiting for foo_paypal. > Not (really) a...   Feb 20 2010, 03:58
- - Porcus   QUOTE (foognak @ Feb 20 2010, 03:58) Stil...   Feb 20 2010, 07:50
- - foognak   QUOTE (Porcus @ Feb 20 2010, 00:50) QUOTE...   Apr 12 2010, 16:38


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