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Why does there seem to be a lack of interest in Musepack?
nycjv321
post Aug 19 2009, 01:08
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Musepack is still as good as mp3 if not better and on par with modern codecs and vorbis and aac so why does no one talk about it? I was murking around the forum wiki and found out musepack was opensource which is a big plus for me... and older abx tests have it on par with aotuv or lame so why no talk? is it becuase of slow development? I think this is unfair if the codec is already so good no more tuning is needed..... any reason why people don't use mpc anymore other then compatibility? (converting from lossless to another format isn't too trivial... lol....)
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halb27
post Aug 20 2009, 12:06
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I think those who have a mpc music library and no current compatibility issue with players used don't have a real need actually to switch to another format. mpc at not too low a bitrate still is excellent. There seems to be not a significant amount of mpc development, but as the codec is mature, there is also no real need for that though it would be welcome.

For all those who don't have a mpc music library actually mpc isn't a good choice. Qualitywise AAC, Vorbis and even today's mp3 are a good alternative with better hardware compatibility (with AAC getting more and more DAP support and Vorbis falling a bit behind).

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post Aug 20 2009, 13:00
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QUOTE (halb27 @ Aug 20 2009, 12:06) *
I think those who have a mpc music library and no current compatibility issue with players used don't have a real need actually to switch to another format.
They do - they need to re-rip to lossless while they still can. If they wait until the next new DAP/car/phone/whatever they want to buy doesn't have MPC support, they might find they don't have the time / hardware / CDs left to re-rip then!

Assuming the people who ripped entire collections to MPC originally are the kind who care about audio quality and technology - these are the very people that are going to find being stuck with MPC a serious inconvenience first.

People who don't care about technology might keep listening on the same old devices. People who don't care about audio quality could just transcode MPC to mp3. But I don't think such people used MPC in the first place. I could be wrong.

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post Aug 20 2009, 16:11
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QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Aug 20 2009, 14:00) *
They do - they need to re-rip to lossless while they still can. If they wait until the next new DAP/car/phone/whatever they want to buy doesn't have MPC support, they might find they don't have the time / hardware / CDs left to re-rip then! ...

Well the time will probably come that they have to re-encode or re-rip. But whether to do it now or later or (with very low chance) never is a personal thing.
When using mpc only on a pc there will be a lot of time until re-encoding will be necessary.
When using mpc on a mobile DAP AFAIK it can be done only with Rockbox armed players. These players are so old that in case that somebody uses them today he won't have a problem to use them for some more years IMO.
Of course with an ever-growing music library it would be wise to switch rather earlier than later.
But even then this is a question of strategy. A useful argument may be 'Within two years memory of mobile DAPs will be so large that I can use lossless (or very high quality lossy like lossyWAV + lossless). I can wait another two years.'
So it's all up to users' preferences.


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- nycjv321   Why does there seem to be a lack of interest in Musepack?   Aug 19 2009, 01:08
- - Soap   I believe the answer is because MPC is on par with...   Aug 19 2009, 01:16
- - nycjv321   wow.... oh ok that sucks though I am willing to sa...   Aug 19 2009, 01:27
- - /mnt   I agree with Soap about the public being more inte...   Aug 19 2009, 01:29
- - rpp3po   The point is hardware support.   Aug 19 2009, 01:44
- - /mnt   If open source is big plus to you, i would recomme...   Aug 19 2009, 01:51
- - viktor   the future (present) of music on pc is lossless. o...   Aug 19 2009, 02:03
|- - prankstare   QUOTE the future (present) of music on pc is lossl...   Oct 13 2009, 19:01
|- - viktor   QUOTE (prankstare @ Oct 13 2009, 20:01) Q...   Oct 13 2009, 19:38
- - Antonski   Well, it's a matter of choice, you know. For m...   Aug 19 2009, 02:17
- - twostar   Years ago when HD space was an issue, high quality...   Aug 19 2009, 02:38
- - shadowking   I disagree somewhat. The core values of HA sure ha...   Aug 19 2009, 03:31
|- - patmcg   QUOTE (shadowking @ Aug 18 2009, 16:31) I...   Aug 19 2009, 07:20
- - shadowking   128k is a reduction in standards. I am not telling...   Aug 19 2009, 07:54
|- - Soap   QUOTE (shadowking @ Aug 19 2009, 02:54) I...   Aug 19 2009, 12:39
||- - bawjaws   QUOTE (Soap @ Aug 19 2009, 03:39) I do de...   Aug 20 2009, 16:59
||- - halb27   QUOTE (bawjaws @ Aug 20 2009, 17:59) How ...   Aug 20 2009, 17:59
|- - Alexxander   QUOTE (shadowking @ Aug 19 2009, 08:54) ....   Aug 19 2009, 12:50
|- - viktor   QUOTE (shadowking @ Aug 19 2009, 07:54) I...   Aug 21 2009, 15:01
- - nycjv321   I think (or at least would hope) people want hq on...   Aug 19 2009, 12:09
- - Alexxander   QUOTE (viktor @ Aug 19 2009, 03:03) the f...   Aug 19 2009, 12:44
|- - viktor   QUOTE (Alexxander @ Aug 19 2009, 12:44) Q...   Aug 21 2009, 15:21
- - Grinderman   I returned relatively recently to HA after quite a...   Aug 19 2009, 13:11
- - 2Bdecided   I think the world continued to be dominated by the...   Aug 19 2009, 13:28
|- - kornchild2002   QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Aug 19 2009, 06:28) I ...   Aug 19 2009, 16:55
|- - David Nordin   QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Aug 19 2009, 14:28) 1....   Aug 20 2009, 16:33
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|- - DonP   QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Aug 19 2009, 07:28) I ...   May 19 2010, 14:07
|- - Wyld Stallyn   QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Aug 19 2009, 13:28) bu...   Mar 29 2013, 16:20
|- - 2Bdecided   I bet when you dragged this thread up from the dep...   Mar 29 2013, 16:34
|- - Wyld Stallyn   I didn't actually look at the timestamp. Now t...   Mar 29 2013, 16:37
- - GeSomeone   I have used Musepack for quite some time and of co...   Aug 19 2009, 14:49
- - Kitsuned   For the lower bitrates (below 128kbps) musepack co...   Aug 19 2009, 20:24
- - Destroid   I think Musepack is a perfectly usable format for ...   Aug 20 2009, 00:25
|- - 2Bdecided   QUOTE (Destroid @ Aug 20 2009, 00:25) I t...   Aug 20 2009, 09:12
- - kwanbis   QUOTE (nycjv321 @ Aug 19 2009, 01:08) Mus...   Aug 20 2009, 05:18
|- - nycjv321   QUOTE (kwanbis @ Aug 20 2009, 00:18) QUOT...   Aug 21 2009, 01:41
|- - 2Bdecided   QUOTE (nycjv321 @ Aug 21 2009, 01:41) I a...   Aug 21 2009, 09:25
||- - Soap   QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Aug 21 2009, 04:25) QU...   Aug 21 2009, 14:45
|- - twostar   QUOTE (nycjv321 @ Aug 21 2009, 08:41) dud...   Aug 21 2009, 13:16
|- - nycjv321   QUOTE (twostar @ Aug 21 2009, 08:16) QUOT...   Aug 21 2009, 14:35
|- - AshenTech   QUOTE (twostar @ Aug 21 2009, 06:16) QUOT...   Sep 10 2009, 16:28
|- - viktor   QUOTE (AshenTech @ Sep 10 2009, 16:28) ac...   Sep 10 2009, 18:44
- - halb27   I think those who have a mpc music library and no ...   Aug 20 2009, 12:06
|- - 2Bdecided   QUOTE (halb27 @ Aug 20 2009, 12:06) I thi...   Aug 20 2009, 13:00
|- - GeSomeone   QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Aug 20 2009, 14:00) Pe...   Aug 20 2009, 15:56
|- - halb27   QUOTE (2Bdecided @ Aug 20 2009, 14:00) Th...   Aug 20 2009, 16:11
- - Antonski   QUOTE (Soap @ Aug 19 2009, 03:16) The pub...   Aug 20 2009, 15:52
- - Brother John   2Bdecided has a valid point here. CDs don’t ...   Aug 20 2009, 16:15
- - vpa   AFAIK: Musepack is based on MP2, and therefore onl...   Aug 20 2009, 17:50
- - Aquamarine   Yeah, me too. I will not sacrifice my mp3 quality ...   Aug 20 2009, 18:33
- - nycjv321   umm why was the original title of this topic chang...   Aug 21 2009, 02:44
- - String Theory   Musepack didn't interest me until yesterday. A...   May 19 2010, 12:24
|- - dv1989   QUOTE (String Theory @ May 19 2010, 12:24...   May 19 2010, 13:05
|- - String Theory   QUOTE (dv1989 @ May 19 2010, 14:05) QUOTE...   May 19 2010, 13:08
- - dv1989   By "awesome", I presume you mean transpa...   May 19 2010, 13:16


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