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Best mid range audiophile sound card
dandart
post Jul 14 2009, 21:52
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What in your opinion is the best mid-range (up to 160) consumer available audiophile sound card? I don't need EAX or any of that rubbish. I just want to listen to FLACs.

If it matters, my platform is Linux.

I have heard M-audio delta 44 and 2496 are very nice. but has anyone done comparisons?
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post Jul 14 2009, 22:14
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QUOTE (dandart @ Jul 14 2009, 21:52) *
If it matters, my platform is Linux.


Sorta does since sound card drivers under can be a pain under Linux i.e Creative's Sound Blaster X-Fi cards. And also now with major Linux distros shoving that god awful piece of crap down every users throats called Pulse Audio mad.gif.

I've heard alot of good things about the Asus Xonar D2X and the Asus Xonar D1. Also there based on C-Media's Oxygen HD chips, which has good open source drivers.

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post Jul 14 2009, 22:34
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Haha. Pulse sucks. I won't be using it. ALSA or JACK.

X-Fi drivers suck because Creative can't be bothered to get off their arse. But that's the only real sound card that I've heard makes bad drivers.

Thanks, I'll check them out.
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post Jul 14 2009, 22:45
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QUOTE (dandart @ Jul 14 2009, 22:34) *
X-Fi drivers suck because Creative can't be bothered to get off their arse. But that's the only real sound card that I've heard makes bad drivers.


True, 2 years late 64bit only and god dam buggy which reminds me of the days when i had a ATi Radeon 9600 Pro under Linux. Then Creative gave up and released a GPL driver and gave the ALSA devs the docs to clean up their mess, those cheeky bastards smile.gif. Sadly i got one, mainly because of its hardware mixing support and i play games under Windows.

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post Jul 14 2009, 22:55
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Yeah, I play games under Linux. I have about 25 first person shooters, but I find their sounds are fine as they are without EAX. I love to play Quake most, so it won't be a problem. I just like to audiophile. Any more suggestions for a great sound card? Every one I've ever used has been supported on Linux because it's the best and the one that supports the most hardware. The M-Audio for example, uses the Envy24 chipset, a well supported one.

As for the Xonars, they're PCI or PCIEx4 right? My x16 is used up by my 8500GT.
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post Jul 14 2009, 23:14
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As for the Xonars, they're PCI or PCIEx4 right? My x16 is used up by my 8500GT.


I think the Asus Xonar D2X is PCI only, while there is PCI-E and PCI versions of the Asus Xonar DX1.

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post Jul 14 2009, 23:22
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I see they're 7.1. Are they the best sound quality? Because that's all I'm after even if it has 2 outputs.
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post Jul 14 2009, 23:28
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QUOTE (dandart @ Jul 14 2009, 23:22) *
I see they're 7.1. Are they the best sound quality? Because that's all I'm after even if it has 2 outputs.


There's plenty of reviews on those cards that had RMAA tests that outperformed Sound Blaster X-Fi cards.

A review by techreport.com


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post Jul 14 2009, 23:29
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I'd expect anything would outperform X-fi, since X-fi doesn't make good enough drivers.
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post Jul 15 2009, 02:34
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QUOTE (/mnt @ Jul 14 2009, 17:14) *
Sorta does since sound card drivers under can be a pain under Linux i.e Creative's Sound Blaster X-Fi cards. And also now with major Linux distros shoving that god awful piece of crap down every users throats called Pulse Audio mad.gif.


Agreed. Pulseaudio is the worst piece of crap that I have ever seen. This is the first thing that I uninstalled on a new system. Unfortunately, I have to recompile a lot of stuff to get rid of every trace of it.

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post Jul 15 2009, 02:47
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Agreed. Pulseaudio is the worst piece of crap that I have ever seen. This is the first thing that I uninstalled on a new system. Unfortunately, I have to recompile a lot of stuff to get rid of every trace of it.


I tried that with Fedora 11, but Pulse Audio seems to be built deep down onto the whole distro unlike Ubuntu (well atm). Even when i managed to remove it, I did get sound but the GNOME volume control panel won't work and the whole system unstable. IMO Fedora 11 has to be one of the worst Linux distros i've ever used because of Pulse Audio and it's god awful partion manager on Anaconda; it just felt like a beta build.


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post Jul 15 2009, 03:11
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QUOTE (dandart @ Jul 14 2009, 16:52) *
I have heard M-audio delta 44 and 2496 are very nice. but has anyone done comparisons?


For you needs, the Delta 44 (both the Delta 44 and the 2496 uses the some chipset- ICE1712 (Envy24)) is overkill. I would go for the 2496. Another good card, within your price range, is the ESI Juli@. You can buy it here.

If you do choose to go with another card, please check the ALSA SoundCard Matrix before buying.

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post Jul 15 2009, 03:13
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QUOTE (dandart @ Jul 14 2009, 16:52) *
What in your opinion is the best mid-range (up to 160) consumer available audiophile sound card? I don't need EAX or any of that rubbish. I just want to listen to FLACs.

If it matters, my platform is Linux.

I have heard M-audio delta 44 and 2496 are very nice. but has anyone done comparisons?


Is the M-Audio AP 24/192 in your price range?

Otherwise I would recommend the 2496, having compared it to the Delta 66.
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post Jul 15 2009, 03:30
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QUOTE (/mnt @ Jul 14 2009, 21:47) *
I tried that with Fedora 11, but Pulse Audio seems to be built deep down onto the whole distro unlike Ubuntu (well atm). Even when i managed to remove it, I did get sound but the GNOME volume control panel won't work and the whole system unstable.


You will need to recompile the whole GNOME multimedia subsystem, including Gstreamer, and most likely every single multimedia program that you have.

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IMO Fedora 11 has to be one of the worst Linux distros i've ever used because of Pulse Audio and it's god awful partion manager on Anaconda; it just felt like a beta build.


I can't comment on this, since I haven't used a Redhat distro since the Bob Young days.
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