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thedodgymonkey
post Jun 4 2009, 00:02
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I am trying to classify all my music into quite broad genres. If you could only have ten or less categories for your music what would they be?
Okay, I don't have any completely bazaar music like a Panda playing The Bamboo Flute or my own rendition of Mozart's 5th using bottles and spoons!!!

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53.clubs
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I love that this thread has gone on for 3 years and has at least as much validity as the day it was started.

For the record, I found this thread because I had essentially the same question and joined the board as a result...

I don't claim to have any particular mastery of the subject, but I see a trend developing that *should* lead to the 'actual development' of such a list - with the intent of 'actually attempting' in some meaningful way of 'creating some form of universal standard' out of it. (Take that 'Wishful Thinking').

It appears to me fairly clearly that 10 is too few for 'all music', but certainly not 'too few' for any 'one of us' specifically. That is to say, any of us can fairly easily identify each other's 'musical taste' from the list they provided, which by definition would indicate that the list is 'incomplete' - not 'bad', but certainly not 'all encompassing' either. So, each of us could potentially choose 'our 10' from a list of 30 or 40 that would make up the 'upper level' genre categories. We might have a little of this from 11 and a little of that from 12, etc., but we would each primarily use a 'portion' of the list for our needs.

It also seems very clear to me that any usable 'genre list' which would have any 'universal meaning' would need to have multiple levels of categorization otherwise, where, really, would we put 'Smokey Robinson' doing 'White Cristmas' on a 1963 Miracles Christmas album or Ry Cooder & Ali Farka Toure, Ry Cooder & Manuel Galban, Ry Cooder & V.M. Bhatt - and how would we relate them with one and other (yes,.. this relationship really is the ultimate purpose, otherwise, creating any set of 'categories' is basically pointless - we can define that using the definition of human perception and understanding).

So my idea is that we target a number (maybe 30ish) of distinct genre's and actually create a list to start from, and break that list down into subcategories - probably 3 deep (less seems too ambiguous and doesn't seem to help the purpose, and more seems a bit unweildy) though I have no marriage to this and might find that more depth in some areas is valuable whereas some areas may only require 2 levels.

One of the frustrating things to me - being someone who listens mostly to more 'commercial music' made in the past 5 decades is that I like to listen to 'Albums'. Not 'collections of songs, or 'playlists', but full-on, well produced 'albums' that work together as a unit. This doesn't necessarily mean that they are the same 'type' of music all the way through, or that they have the same performers or composers all the way through, but that they were made to fit together well and someone has taken the time to produce them well, with that idea in mind. Some of the *most extreme* examples that pop into my head are, for instance, 'Frampton Comes Alive', 'Dark Side of the Moon', 'Abbey Road' or "Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band", but also the Soundtrack from 'Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?', or Eric Clapton's 'Unplugged' album, or even the Original Broadway Cast's recording of 'Hair'. Some of these are really great productions, but many of the same 'songs' appear in lots of different places with lots of different performers, some worse, some significantly worse, but also, some quite a bit better (Take Harry 'Mac' McClintock's recorded versions of 'Big Rock Candy Mountain' if you need an example here - with or without the introducing and fascinating, yet breif preceding dialogue).

In any case, I would enjoy trying to put such a list together and attempting to actually 'organize' the pack of free running pigs and kittens.... Clearly I am not 'musically qualified or knowledgable' enough to do it on my own, but a group might be fun... I know I would expect to learn a TON...

Being that I am here and have spewed forth my fantastic drivel,... I should probably contribute my, albeit frustratingly incomplete yet categorically disconnected personal list - as best I can...

* Blues------
* Jazz-------
* Rock------- \ yeah,... its big - no, I haven't
* Pop-------- / succcessfully seperated them
* Country----
* Classical--
* Bluegrass--
* Folk-------
* Rap/HH----- \ ... Yeah, try to work those
* R&B/Soul--- / out with a pencil....
* World------

Its an 'ongoing attempt at organization' - which attracted me here in the first place....

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- thedodgymonkey   If you could classify music into ten or fewer genres...   Jun 4 2009, 00:02
- - Canar   Attempt 1: Classical, Jazz, Rock, Folk, Hip-hop, C...   Jun 4 2009, 00:51
- - shakey_snake   Western Classical, Jazz, Pop, Ethnic, Primus Hone...   Jun 6 2009, 08:16
- - onkl   Classical, Pop, Rock, Electronic, Ambient/Downtemp...   Jun 6 2009, 13:15
- - ojdo   My genres, inspired by discogs: Classical Electro...   Jun 6 2009, 17:43
- - TomBarlow   Good question... I will probably miss some stuff.....   Jun 7 2009, 23:32
- - smok3   as it seems one would just need two; a. approved b...   Jun 8 2009, 08:32
|- - pawelq   I think about seven would suffice. For me ;-). 1....   Jun 8 2009, 13:32
- - Axon   Song, in a style suitable for home/personal reprod...   Jun 15 2009, 10:28
- - WonderSlug   1.) Pop Typical Top 40 stuff you hear on the radio...   Jul 6 2009, 05:42
- - audioapprentice   I would use 2. For popular I tend to think in term...   Aug 13 2009, 01:56
|- - Cokemonkey11   Hmm, Acoustic Electronic Mixture that's 3,...   Sep 19 2009, 06:26
- - NeoRenegade   It really varies from person to person based on wh...   Sep 27 2009, 09:12
- - sa_ill   Two Genres: 1. Commercial garbage 2. The Real Stuf...   Oct 8 2009, 08:37
- - Porcus   QUOTE (thedodgymonkey @ Jun 4 2009, 01:02...   Oct 8 2009, 11:52
|- - Porcus   QUOTE (Porcus @ Oct 8 2009, 12:52) I spli...   Jul 23 2012, 18:52
|- - GeSomeone   QUOTE (Porcus @ Jul 23 2012, 19:52) Now ....   Jul 23 2012, 22:51
|- - Porcus   QUOTE (GeSomeone @ Jul 23 2012, 23:51) BT...   Jul 24 2012, 02:34
|- - AliceWonder   QUOTE (Porcus @ Jul 23 2012, 18:34) QUOTE...   Jul 24 2012, 22:44
- - Zarggg   Change "Electro" for the full "Elec...   Oct 8 2009, 22:44
- - Sixth Street   I use only 9 genres in my library. Although, ther...   Oct 15 2009, 02:45
- - extrabigmehdi   Here's how I would categorize my stuff: 1- C...   Oct 15 2009, 04:08
- - derty2   Genre classes:          Composed          Electro...   Jul 17 2012, 17:49
- - alanofoz   Hmmm... Examine your lists - how would you classi...   Jul 17 2012, 23:41
- - derty2   alanofoz, are you talking to me? Is your post mea...   Jul 18 2012, 00:42
|- - alanofoz   QUOTE (derty2 @ Jul 18 2012, 10:42) alano...   Jul 20 2012, 00:26
- - db1989   That list includes nursery rhymes, occasion-relate...   Jul 18 2012, 10:56
- - AliceWonder   I'm iterate when it comes to music history. Ju...   Jul 21 2012, 16:31
- - AliceWonder   QUOTE (alanofoz @ Jul 19 2012, 16:26) Not...   Jul 21 2012, 16:37
- - r0k   Wow, that's an interesting topic you unearthed...   Jul 22 2012, 08:17
|- - ojdo   QUOTE (r0k @ Jul 22 2012, 15:17) <drea...   Jul 22 2012, 17:45
|- - AliceWonder   QUOTE (r0k @ Jul 22 2012, 00:17) [*]Relig...   Jul 22 2012, 22:51
|- - pawelq   QUOTE (r0k @ Jul 22 2012, 03:17) Classica...   Jul 23 2012, 15:26
- - 53.clubs   I love that this thread has gone on for 3 years an...   Aug 16 2012, 02:17
- - majawe   Punk... ...and non-punk   Nov 17 2012, 12:29
- - nastea   1. House 2. Other thats it really   Nov 18 2012, 04:32
- - Porcus   What about extending these binary choices to allow...   Nov 18 2012, 12:15
|- - db1989   QUOTE (Porcus @ Nov 18 2012, 12:15) What ...   Apr 5 2013, 00:44
- - Wyld Stallyn   I guess I'm a grotesque outsider with my +50 g...   Apr 4 2013, 16:04
- - EagleScout1998   My attempt.... Blues Classical Comedy Country Eas...   Apr 12 2013, 09:08


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