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TheSneakerDude
post May 11 2009, 15:32
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Hello, I'm new to turntables and vinyl since they're before my time. (I'm 19) My father is an avid collector and he has quite a collection but his turntable is in need of a new cartidge. He has an old Technics 1200 MK2. I already own about 10 records, mostly modern rock and some european dance. However, I want to buy a solid turntable that will let me import the records onto my comuter and keep the sound pure and better than cd. I already own the records I have on cd. I want to import the LP's in a way that will let me hear the difference clearly. I mainly listen to my music on my ipod or my computer. I am considering buying a Technics 1200 MK5 and attaching an Audio Technica Turntable Cartridge AT150MLX to it and using a Rolls/Bellari VP530 to import onto my computer. The total cost for this investment will come around 1k. Now what I want to know is, will this be a good enough investment for me to imporve on the sound of my cd's? I don't want to invest a grand in equipment and the records will sound identical to the cds on my ipod. I understand that headphones are part of the equation so I already own Bose Quiet Comfort 3 to be able hear a better range of frequencies. Am I wasting my money investing in all these parts? Instead of investing in all these parts, should I just stick to the turntable and the Rolls/Bellari VP530? Any help is greatly apreciated. Thank you!

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2Bdecided
post May 12 2009, 18:06
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TheSneakerDude,

You're going to be told the truth on this site.

And judging by your pre-conceptions, you're not going to like it.


Take an LP, record it properly at 44.1kHz 16-bits, and the only change to the sound is in some listener's imagination.


People who trust their imagination will try to tell you that vinyl sounds better than CD, CD isn't good enough to capture the information on vinyl etc, and most importantly that everyone here is deaf.

Yet there are people here with a few more records than you (I have over 10,000), better systems, and long experience of copying LPs onto CDs / digital. And not one of them can hear anything wrong with the result (or at least, any faults that weren't already present on the LP itself!).


Now, the question is, can these people who claim vinyl sounds better and CD sounds worse really hear the difference, when they don't know which one is being played to them?

Every test carried out so far suggests they only think vinyl sounds better when they know they're listening to vinyl. When know-one tells them whether they're listening ot vinyl direct, or vinyl copied onto CD, they can't tell the difference.

Draw your own conclusions.


Some recordings are far far better mastered on vinyl than on CD. Copying these onto CD can give you something far more enjoyable than the commercial CD release. Using "better than CD" digital parameters will make no difference on decent equipment, and little difference on inferior equipment.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,
David.
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TheSneakerDude
post May 12 2009, 18:16
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QUOTE (2Bdecided @ May 12 2009, 12:06) *
TheSneakerDude,

You're going to be told the truth on this site.


Thank you very much by your honesty it has helped me in my dilemma. I am a little disappointed by this however, it has made me more humble towards my cd collection. I already own about 2K. Sometimes it is better to find happiness and value in what you already have. Thank You.
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- TheSneakerDude   Getting into Records   May 11 2009, 15:32
- - Tahnru   QUOTE (TheSneakerDude @ May 11 2009, 09:3...   May 11 2009, 15:34
- - TheSneakerDude   I want to be able to hear a difference between my ...   May 11 2009, 15:39
- - rpp3po   The CD format's technical limitations are much...   May 11 2009, 15:39
- - TheSneakerDude   I know that vinyl sounds good when you're list...   May 11 2009, 15:46
|- - rpp3po   QUOTE (TheSneakerDude @ May 11 2009, 16:4...   May 11 2009, 15:48
- - TheSneakerDude   All of my records are brand new, and I haven't...   May 11 2009, 15:53
|- - Tahnru   QUOTE (TheSneakerDude @ May 11 2009, 09:5...   May 11 2009, 16:27
|- - krabapple   QUOTE (Tahnru @ May 11 2009, 11:27) QUOTE...   May 12 2009, 19:06
- - TheSneakerDude   so the VP530 would not be adequate enough? right? ...   May 12 2009, 17:10
|- - rpp3po   QUOTE (TheSneakerDude @ May 12 2009, 18:1...   May 12 2009, 17:20
- - TheSneakerDude   I recently read about sampling Records at 24Bit/19...   May 12 2009, 17:19
- - 2Bdecided   TheSneakerDude, You're going to be told the t...   May 12 2009, 18:06
|- - TheSneakerDude   QUOTE (2Bdecided @ May 12 2009, 12:06) Th...   May 12 2009, 18:16
|- - PaJaRo   QUOTE (TheSneakerDude @ May 12 2009, 19:1...   May 12 2009, 18:43
- - Tahnru   @ Krabapple: Thank you for pointing that out. It...   May 12 2009, 19:26
- - TheSneakerDude   Does anyone from New York know a store where one c...   May 13 2009, 01:13
- - Audible!   Overpaid - you seem to be under the impression tha...   May 24 2009, 19:25
- - Tuberocity   For the layman out there ( I don't have the te...   May 31 2009, 18:59
|- - gorgekko   QUOTE (Tuberocity @ May 31 2009, 13:59) F...   Jun 24 2009, 04:51
- - audioapprentice   Sneaker Dude: I'd get a cheap as chips second...   Jun 24 2009, 03:35
|- - Axon   QUOTE (audioapprentice @ Jun 23 2009, 21...   Jun 24 2009, 03:45
|- - audioapprentice   Axon: Luckily, I have no idea what "tracking...   Jun 24 2009, 23:57
- - Canar   How did I miss this thread? Tuberocity and Overpai...   Jun 24 2009, 06:15
- - WmAx   I have many LPs that have a noise floor that is ra...   Jun 25 2009, 01:05
- - Curtor   QUOTE (TheSneakerDude @ May 11 2009, 07:3...   Jun 25 2009, 01:19


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