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donnie
post Dec 20 2008, 17:03
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First off, I don't know a huge amount about this and I know there are quite a lot of threads on vinyl to digital conversion. However, I'm looking for advice about USB turntables, specifically an ION TTUSB05XL.

A family member bought this for themselves as an early Christmas present - we have hundreds, possibly thousands of old vinyls in the house and it would be nice to have the less damaged ones on playable again. However, is this actually going to be much use? The manual talks about recording directly to mp3 via iTunes, so it's aimed at a pretty low tech market and the whole thing probably costs less the 50.

The install CD also comes with audacity for "Expert Users" so I'm assuming getting the audio in a decent format shouldn't be a problem and it should work ok in Linux too. But is it going to be worth archiving several hundred vinyls to FLAC with this level of hardware? I always assumed the best way to do this would be to use a decent turntable setup with a line in to a decent soundcard. If I'm going to be doing it I'd rather get it right first time as it's going to take a lot of effort.
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Knowzy
post Jan 31 2009, 22:36
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QUOTE (Axon @ Jan 13 2009, 13:46) *
I'm sure you can find cheaper tables that deliver performance just as acceptable as with the 1200, but it's highly unclear if there ever will be a cheaper table that delivers superior performance. All the R&D costs that went into building it have been paid off many times over.

QUOTE (WmAx @ Jan 31 2009, 04:00) *
If there is a product, priced new, that is comparable for a lower cost, I would appreciate it if someone would let me know of this product.


These are questions I've spent considerable time exploring for my Superior Analog Turntables section. In it, I define "superior" as better specifications than the Debut III USB (not the SL-1200) and under $750 new with a cartridge.

I have yet to come across one that beats the SL-1200MK5 strictly on its specifications.

Here are some of the contenders. Please fill me in if I missed your favorite.

Thorens TD190-1 $500, OMB 10 cart included
Belt Drive
Manual
Wow and Flutter: 0.04% (WRMS), 0.07% (DIN)
S/N: 46db unweighted, 72dB weighted
Platter: Aluminum, 1.5lbs
Tracking force: 1.75g (according to Ortofon), 1.5g (according to Thorens)
Tracking error: 0.15
Tonearm: TP 19-1
Speed deviation: Not published



Denon DP-500M $700, cart not included (not in Superior Turntable section. Reason: Too expensive)
Direct Drive
MDF Cabinet
Fully automatic
Wow and Flutter: <0.1% (WRMS)
S/N: >=70db (presumably unweighted)
Platter: Aluminum, underside silicon rubber sheet
Tracking force: N/A
Tracking error: 3
Tonearm: Diecast parts with dampening material
Speed deviation: +/-0.003%


Music Hall $450, cart included (not in Superior Turntable section. Reason: Not beginner-friendly)
Belt Drive
Manual
Wow and Flutter: <0.15% (presumably WRMS)
S/N: 70db (presumably unweighted)
Platter: Alloy, 4.5lbs
Tracking force: 1.75g
Tracking error: Not published
Tonearm: Yes (no details)
Speed deviation: +/-0.09%


Compare to the SL-1200:

Technics SL-1200MK5 $450, cart not included
Direct Drive
Manual
Wow and Flutter: <0.025% (WRMS), <0.01% (turntable assembly alone)
S/N: 56db unweighted, 78dB weighted
Platter: Aluminum, 3.74lbs
Tracking force: N/A
Tracking error: 2
Tonearm: Diecast parts with dampening material
Speed deviation: Not published


It goes without saying that specs aren't everything and are often embellished. Every turntable and the components that make it up have a different sound and that is something that cannot be measured.

That said, I'm not aware of anything that beats SL-1200 from the standpoint of things you can measure. At least not within a few hundred dollars of the SL-1200's price.

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- donnie   ripping vinyl, usb turntable   Dec 20 2008, 17:03
- - bandpass   QUOTE (donnie @ Dec 20 2008, 16:03) I...   Dec 20 2008, 18:05
- - xmixahlx   that is a great website - thanks for posting it. ...   Dec 20 2008, 23:18
- - maggior   QUOTE (donnie @ Dec 20 2008, 12:03) I alw...   Dec 21 2008, 05:19
- - donnie   Thanks for the replies. So basically I want a turn...   Dec 21 2008, 13:07
|- - uart   QUOTE (donnie @ Dec 21 2008, 04:07) Thank...   Dec 21 2008, 15:08
|- - donnie   The old turntable is a Collaro P900. I don't k...   Dec 22 2008, 01:13
|- - Arnold B. Krueger   QUOTE (donnie @ Dec 21 2008, 19:13) The o...   Dec 22 2008, 13:53
- - Axon   Yeah, a few of us would love to listen to some FLA...   Dec 22 2008, 01:36
- - Knowzy   QUOTE (donnie @ Dec 20 2008, 08:03) I...   Dec 22 2008, 19:33
- - MichaelW   A quick Google reveals that Collaro was a brand ow...   Dec 22 2008, 22:14
- - WmAx   I would suggest buying an 80's era turn table;...   Dec 24 2008, 13:18
|- - vpa   That's what I would suggest too. I've got ...   Dec 24 2008, 14:47
|- - facesnorth   QUOTE (vpa @ Dec 24 2008, 08:47) That...   Jan 13 2009, 10:23
|- - jadsdad   QUOTE (facesnorth @ Jan 13 2009, 09:23) R...   Jan 13 2009, 11:12
|- - cliveb   QUOTE (jadsdad @ Jan 13 2009, 10:12) Inst...   Jan 13 2009, 16:38
|- - facesnorth   QUOTE (jadsdad @ Jan 13 2009, 05:12) QUOT...   Jan 29 2009, 20:03
- - maggior   QUOTE (donnie @ Dec 20 2008, 12:03) I alw...   Dec 27 2008, 07:04
|- - jadsdad   I fell into the USB turntable trap around 18 month...   Jan 13 2009, 10:03
- - Knowzy   QUOTE (vpa @ Dec 24 2008, 05:47) ...avoid...   Jan 13 2009, 21:11
- - Axon   The 1200 is regularly available in the US brand-ne...   Jan 13 2009, 22:46
- - WmAx   How is the Technics SL-1200MKII over priced in any...   Jan 31 2009, 13:00
- - Knowzy   QUOTE (Axon @ Jan 13 2009, 13:46) I'm...   Jan 31 2009, 22:36


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