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VBR Player compatibility, No longer an issue these days, surely
Paul Sanders
post Oct 4 2008, 15:01
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Hi all,

Does anybody know specifically of any MP3 player (hardware or software) or any audio editor that cannot read VBR encoded MP3 files? (I know that some audio editors cannot write them.) Since VBR files are so similar in structure to CBR and ABR files, I would not expect this to be the case but I need to know for professional reasons.

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kornchild2002
post Oct 5 2008, 23:25
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I just ran into poorly designed hardware. My friend purchased a new 2008 Pontiac G5 (this is basically the Grand Am but they have since renamed it to G5) and it came with a factory installed mp3-CD compatible deck. The unit will play VBR files just fine but we have discovered that all frames in the mp3 must be encoded at 128kbps or higher. He normally encodes his music at -V 5 where many frames can be below 128kbps. None of his files worked. I tried everything before reading that it is a non-standard mp3 player in which files must be encoded at 128kbps or higher. I even tried some -V 0 files purchased from Amazon's mp3 store (with an overall average bitrate of around 300kbps) and they didn't work. None of his audiobook mp3 files work either.

It took us all day but now his -V 5 files will work if he adds the -b 128 option. The only issue now is that foobar2000 isn't using the -b option with Lame 3.98 or 3.98.2. He has his CDs ripped to FLAC so all he will need to do is setup foobar2000 to encode overnight. EAC appears to be using -b 128 when ripping an audio CD but foobar2000 isn't using the option.

Still, this is something strange that I have never encountered. I don't know who makes the CD deck in the Pontiac but I know that they previously used a company called Cool Technology (or something like that) for their Sunfire and Grand Am cars.
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- Paul Sanders   VBR Player compatibility   Oct 4 2008, 15:01
- - /mnt   iTunes and WMP, still have track seeking issues wi...   Oct 4 2008, 15:06
- - kornchild2002   Windows Movie Maker also has issues with VBR/ABR m...   Oct 4 2008, 16:36
- - lesswire   My DVD player (Samsung HD-860) doesn't play mp...   Oct 4 2008, 18:27
|- - Paul Sanders   QUOTE (lesswire @ Oct 4 2008, 18:27) My D...   Oct 4 2008, 18:33
- - AgentMil   My Sony Ericcson mobile phone crackles and pops wh...   Oct 5 2008, 15:21
- - Moon   As I've just found out yesterday: Pioneer CDJ-...   Oct 5 2008, 15:24
- - Paul Sanders   Thanks to everyone who responded. Keep it coming....   Oct 5 2008, 19:47
|- - Moon   QUOTE (Paul Sanders @ Oct 5 2008, 20:47) ...   Oct 5 2008, 22:03
|- - Paul Sanders   QUOTE (Moon @ Oct 5 2008, 22:03) QUOTE (P...   Oct 5 2008, 23:20
- - kornchild2002   I just ran into poorly designed hardware. My frie...   Oct 5 2008, 23:25
- - weaker   That Pioneer manual http://www.pioneerelectronics....   Oct 5 2008, 23:36
- - robert   My Pioneer 444 DVD player (RIP) could play VBR mp3...   Oct 6 2008, 00:16
|- - kornchild2002   QUOTE (robert @ Oct 5 2008, 17:16) @kornc...   Oct 6 2008, 03:33
|- - robert   QUOTE (kornchild2002 @ Oct 6 2008, 04:33)...   Oct 6 2008, 09:42
- - Dynamic   Big shame. At least most of these so far can be wo...   Oct 6 2008, 01:58
- - lesswire   QUOTE That is indeed odd. Is there any error messa...   Oct 6 2008, 03:55
- - Pepzhez   It sounds like Pioneer's VBR support is all ov...   Oct 6 2008, 05:04
- - kornchild2002   It is common for iTunes AAC compatible devices to ...   Oct 6 2008, 06:14
- - robojock   Hi im a dj and as far as i know most pioneer dj de...   Oct 6 2008, 07:40
|- - Moon   QUOTE (robojock @ Oct 6 2008, 08:40) can ...   Oct 6 2008, 08:28
- - robojock   Yeah and the funny thing is i have a pair of denon...   Oct 6 2008, 09:12
- - Paul Sanders   QUOTE (Moon @ Oct 6 2008, 08:28) Think of...   Oct 6 2008, 09:26


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