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Please welcome, CUETools v2.1.4. (CUETools download page) or direct link: http://www.cuetools.net/install/CUETools_2.1.4.rar

16.04.2012: CUETools 2.1.4:
* CTDB 2.0: now ignoring pregap in parity calculations
* CTDB 2.0: popular CDs can have twice larger correction files
* CTDB 2.0: confidence values no longer include AccurateRip data
* CTDB 2.0: simplified (per-track) verification log
* CTDB 2.0: faster verification process with less network traffic
* CUERipper: support for some older drives, like PLEXTOR W1210A
* CUERipper: support for cover art
* CUERipper: main window resizable
* CUERipper: real test&copy mode
* CUERipper: options dialog
* Tagging: support for release date, release country, disc subtitle, label, catalog number, comment
* Local DB: can now refresh folder, removing missing files from database and adding new files.
* Codecs: LAME encoder updated to use libmp3lame.dll, which is now included in CUETools download (version 3.98.4)
* Various bug fixes

14.06.2011: CUETools 2.1.2:
* AccurateRip v2 support (without cross-pressing verification)
* EAC CTDB plugin
* CTDB now supports musicbrainz Next Generation Schema (NGS) metadata. Old musicbrainz library removed. New musicbrainz NGS metadata can now be used in filename templates, including %discname%, %label%, %releasedate%, %country%, %releasedateandlabel%, %discnumberandname%
* CTDB submissions are now based on the same data that was used when verifying, so 'submit' script was removed, and data is submitted after verification, after showing confirmation dialog
* CTDB verification is now much faster
* Local DB: option to purge records
* Local DB: now shown in the same window as folder browser
* metadata editing window size is now saved in settings
* CUERipper now sends CD barcode and rip quality when submitting
* support for wierd CDs with two data tracks before audio

IMPORTANT: .NET Framework 2.0 (SP2) required. If you get a "could not load file or assembly" error message for CUETools.Codecs.TTA/APE/WavPack/FLAC, make sure the recent version of Visual C++ 2008 runtime files (x86,x64) is installed.

You can always download the latest source code from project's SVN repository at SourceForge.
Instructions for svn access can be found here.

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Alex B
post Oct 11 2008, 13:06
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Thank you for the excellent new CUEtools features.

I wonder if it would be possible to add a new simple filename extension corrector that would not need to check the audio files on the disk at all.

Then you could just select the desired target extension (wav, flac, ape or wv) and mass process a bunch of cue sheets even if the audio files are not organized in separate folders.

Personally, I have stored my "single file + cue" multi-disc albums in single album folders so I would need to reorganize them before I could use the filename corrector tool for fixing the cue sheets after a file format change.


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post Oct 11 2008, 22:59
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Question:

Original Log
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Exact Audio Copy V0.99 prebeta 3 from 28. July 2007

EAC extraction logfile from 15. September 2008, 16:35

California Guitar Trio / Yamanashi Blues

Used drive : YAMAHA CRW2100E Adapter: 1 ID: 0

Read mode : Secure
Utilize accurate stream : Yes
Defeat audio cache : Yes
Make use of C2 pointers : No

Read offset correction : 733
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : Yes
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
Null samples used in CRC calculations : Yes
Used interface : Installed external ASPI interface
Gap handling : Appended to previous track

Used output format : User Defined Encoder
Selected bitrate : 768 kBit/s
Quality : High
Add ID3 tag : No
Command line compressor : C:\Archivos de programa\Exact Audio Copy\FLAC\FLAC.EXE
Additional command line options : -6 -V -T "ARTIST=%a" -T "TITLE=%t" -T "ALBUM=%g" -T "DATE=%y" -T "TRACKNUMBER=%n" -T "GENRE=%m" -T "COMMENT=%e" %s -o %d


TOC of the extracted CD

Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector
---------------------------------------------------------
1 | 0:00.00 | 2:21.52 | 0 | 10626
2 | 2:21.52 | 2:10.05 | 10627 | 20381
3 | 4:31.57 | 1:29.70 | 20382 | 27126
4 | 6:01.52 | 2:01.13 | 27127 | 36214
5 | 8:02.65 | 5:04.62 | 36215 | 59076
6 | 13:07.52 | 1:54.48 | 59077 | 67674
7 | 15:02.25 | 1:19.70 | 67675 | 73669
8 | 16:22.20 | 4:37.32 | 73670 | 94476
9 | 20:59.52 | 1:28.23 | 94477 | 101099
10 | 22:28.00 | 2:17.02 | 101100 | 111376
11 | 24:45.02 | 1:45.43 | 111377 | 119294
12 | 26:30.45 | 1:46.07 | 119295 | 127251
13 | 28:16.52 | 11:44.35 | 127252 | 180086
14 | 40:01.12 | 2:14.70 | 180087 | 190206
15 | 42:16.07 | 3:12.58 | 190207 | 204664


Track 1

Filename D:\Datos\audio rips\01 - Yamanashi Blues.wav

Pre-gap length 0:00:02.00

Peak level 87.1 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC CB0C5459
Copy CRC CB0C5459
Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 2) [0C56D51D], AccurateRip returned [6ACB9DE4]
Copy OK

Track 2

Filename D:\Datos\audio rips\02 - Melrose Avenue.wav

Peak level 100.0 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC E61F48D9
Copy CRC E61F48D9
Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 2) [A4E7F44C], AccurateRip returned [8626201C]
Copy OK

Track 3

Filename D:\Datos\audio rips\03 - Corrente.wav

Peak level 45.6 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 0DCED459
Copy CRC 0DCED459
Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 2) [818FD48C], AccurateRip returned [B1A8D24C]
Copy OK

Track 4

Filename D:\Datos\audio rips\04 - Walk Don't Run.wav

Peak level 92.8 %
Track quality 99.9 %
Test CRC 2740BABB
Copy CRC 2740BABB
Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 2) [7E0BF22D], AccurateRip returned [288D709D]
Copy OK

Track 5

Filename D:\Datos\audio rips\05 - Ricercar.wav

Peak level 55.9 %
Track quality 99.9 %
Test CRC 0971BFCF
Copy CRC 0971BFCF
Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 2) [FE96930D], AccurateRip returned [A7E04B1D]
Copy OK

Track 6

Filename D:\Datos\audio rips\06 - Pipeline.wav

Peak level 97.7 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 6B69F644
Copy CRC 6B69F644
Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 2) [66C9EB2F], AccurateRip returned [68298E0F]
Copy OK

Track 7

Filename D:\Datos\audio rips\07 - Beeline.wav

Peak level 100.0 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 98FD9219
Copy CRC 98FD9219
Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 2) [47D2D9C9], AccurateRip returned [EBF33DEF]
Copy OK

Track 8

Filename D:\Datos\audio rips\08 - Chromatic Fugue In D Minor.wav

Peak level 100.0 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 43027130
Copy CRC 43027130
Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 2) [D14A54B1], AccurateRip returned [9BF87C1B]
Copy OK

Track 9

Filename D:\Datos\audio rips\09 - Tenor Madness.wav

Peak level 97.4 %
Track quality 99.8 %
Test CRC 55607C9F
Copy CRC 55607C9F
Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 2) [9DE020F5], AccurateRip returned [FCA36A15]
Copy OK

Track 10

Filename D:\Datos\audio rips\10 - Sleewalk.wav

Peak level 69.1 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 934EA7BC
Copy CRC 934EA7BC
Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 2) [7E619E3B], AccurateRip returned [0BC6DFFB]
Copy OK

Track 11

Filename D:\Datos\audio rips\11 - Carnival.wav

Peak level 66.6 %
Track quality 99.8 %
Test CRC D54C937A
Copy CRC D54C937A
Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 2) [200C7AF2], AccurateRip returned [4DB39EE9]
Copy OK

Track 12

Filename D:\Datos\audio rips\12 - Prelude In C Minor.wav

Peak level 54.0 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 22685572
Copy CRC 22685572
Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 2) [D9E0F7AE], AccurateRip returned [6B5F77AF]
Copy OK

Track 13

Filename D:\Datos\audio rips\13 - Ciaccona.wav

Peak level 61.0 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 38F5A639
Copy CRC 38F5A639
Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 2) [A29460B6], AccurateRip returned [0F0A5387]
Copy OK

Track 14

Filename D:\Datos\audio rips\14 - Blockhead.wav

Peak level 100.0 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 42266934
Copy CRC 42266934
Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 2) [C0007BA4], AccurateRip returned [45D75600]
Copy OK

Track 15

Filename D:\Datos\audio rips\15 - Kan-Non Power.wav

Peak level 84.9 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 0A69F0AD
Copy CRC 0A69F0AD
Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 2) [1AFEE1A0], AccurateRip returned [2F2FAE7B]
Copy OK


No tracks could be verified as accurate
You may have a different pressing from the one(s) in the database

No errors occurred

End of status report


accuraterip result:
CODE
[Disc ID: 0015b781-00fd75be-d70aa80f]
Track [ CRC ] Status
01 [0c56d51d] (00/02) No matches
02 [a4e7f44c] (00/02) No matches
03 [818fd48c] (00/02) No matches
04 [7e0bf22d] (00/02) No matches
05 [fe96930d] (00/02) No matches
06 [66c9eb2f] (00/02) No matches
07 [47d2d9c9] (00/02) No matches
08 [d14a54b1] (00/02) No matches
09 [9de020f5] (00/02) No matches
10 [7e619e3b] (00/02) No matches
11 [200c7af2] (00/02) No matches
12 [d9e0f7ae] (00/02) No matches
13 [a29460b6] (00/02) No matches
14 [c0007ba4] (00/02) No matches
15 [1afee1a0] (00/02) No matches
Offsetted by 112:
01 [6acb9de4] (02/02) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #1
02 [8626201c] (02/02) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #1
03 [b1a8d24c] (02/02) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #1
04 [288d709d] (02/02) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #1
05 [a7e04b1d] (02/02) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #1
06 [68298e0f] (02/02) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #1
07 [ebf33def] (02/02) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #1
08 [9bf87c1b] (02/02) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #1
09 [fca36a15] (02/02) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #1
10 [0bc6dffb] (02/02) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #1
11 [4db39ee9] (02/02) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #1
12 [6b5f77af] (02/02) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #1
13 [0f0a5387] (02/02) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #1
14 [45d75600] (02/02) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #1
15 [2f2fae7b] (02/02) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #1


How is this possible? If I go and check offets page (http://www.accuraterip.com/driveoffsets.htm), it's clear that offset for "YAMAHA - CRW2100E" +733. Yet, accuraterip shows "Offsetted by 112" having confidence level 2?

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QUOTE (yury_usa @ Oct 11 2008, 23:59) *
How is this possible?

QUOTE

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No tracks could be verified as accurate
You may have a different pressing from the one(s) in the database

No errors occurred

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