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Which CD DAE software is the most accurate for Mac OS X?, Is XLD the most accurate with feature set?
macman4hire
post Sep 1 2008, 22:45
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I would like to archive my CD collection and have chosen to use FLAC as my lossless codec. I believe FLAC's wide range of hardware support, comparable compression rates vs. other lossless codecs and the encode/decode rates are a par with its competition. I have tried the following software for DAE XLD, Max, xACT, iTunes and Toast. I am leaning towards using XLD with its new features of AccurateRip, disable cache and its log report. Please read the following questions posted below and give your answers and advice about XLD or any other DAE software for Mac Os X.

1. I have read CD Paranoia will not allow the cache to be disabled if the cache is larger than 1 meg. Is the this correct?

2. Does the disable cache feature work in XLD?

3. Can the AccurateRip feature be trusted in XLD?

4. Can the the error log report be trusted in XLD?

5. What about using VMware Fusion with XP and EAC. Would this method produce accurate results?


Thank you for answers and help. 500 plus CD's to rip!

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I ripped this CD and XLD produce this log report posted below. This feature is excellent!

CODE
X Lossless Decoder version 20080830 (84.0)

XLD extraction logfile from 2008-09-01 21:20:51 -0400

Michael Hedges / Oracle

Used drive : HP CD-Writer+ 7500 (revision 1.0a)

Use cdparanoia mode : YES
Disable audio cache : YES
Read offset correction : 1160
Max retry count : 100

TOC of the extracted CD
Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector
---------------------------------------------------------
1 | 00:00:00 | 03:07:70 | 0 | 14094
2 | 03:07:70 | 03:30:30 | 14095 | 29874
3 | 06:38:25 | 02:12:00 | 29875 | 39774
4 | 08:50:25 | 03:31:05 | 39775 | 55604
5 | 12:21:30 | 02:40:42 | 55605 | 67646
6 | 15:01:72 | 04:10:40 | 67647 | 86436
7 | 19:12:37 | 02:22:55 | 86437 | 97141
8 | 21:35:17 | 04:04:10 | 97142 | 115451
9 | 25:39:27 | 03:21:73 | 115452 | 130599
10 | 29:01:25 | 03:00:05 | 130600 | 144104
11 | 32:01:30 | 02:11:62 | 144105 | 153991
12 | 34:13:17 | 02:45:50 | 153992 | 166416
13 | 36:58:67 | 04:19:65 | 166417 | 185906
14 | 41:18:57 | 03:08:58 | 185907 | 200064

All Tracks
Filename : /Users/macman4hire/Desktop/Oracle.flac
CRC32 hash : EABF8784
CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 6EAD7433
Statistics
Read error : 0
Skipped (treated as error) : 0
Edge jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
Atom jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0

Track 01
CRC32 hash : C94ACE7A
CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 15AFAF2C
AccurateRip signature : D3A7BC46
->Accurately ripped! (confidence 27)
Statistics
Read error : 0
Skipped (treated as error) : 0
Edge jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
Atom jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0

Track 02
CRC32 hash : EA21E84A
CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 0C3F1691
AccurateRip signature : F7FEBB42
->Accurately ripped! (confidence 27)
Statistics
Read error : 0
Skipped (treated as error) : 0
Edge jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
Atom jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0

Track 03
CRC32 hash : 423BFCF1
CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 4C9EA8EC
AccurateRip signature : EE1D2449
->Accurately ripped! (confidence 27)
Statistics
Read error : 0
Skipped (treated as error) : 0
Edge jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
Atom jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0

Track 04
CRC32 hash : 44BB6BA3
CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 0D968679
AccurateRip signature : A0984EAA
->Accurately ripped! (confidence 27)
Statistics
Read error : 0
Skipped (treated as error) : 0
Edge jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
Atom jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0

Track 05
CRC32 hash : 70C4EA9B
CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 248D67FC
AccurateRip signature : 765C0C6E
->Accurately ripped! (confidence 26)
Statistics
Read error : 0
Skipped (treated as error) : 0
Edge jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
Atom jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0

Track 06
CRC32 hash : 6AB7533A
CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 50D12B36
AccurateRip signature : 45020BB7
->Accurately ripped! (confidence 26)
Statistics
Read error : 0
Skipped (treated as error) : 0
Edge jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
Atom jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0

Track 07
CRC32 hash : 37444EED
CRC32 hash (skip zero) : BC207CF5
AccurateRip signature : 62008641
->Accurately ripped! (confidence 27)
Statistics
Read error : 0
Skipped (treated as error) : 0
Edge jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
Atom jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0

Track 08
CRC32 hash : A10590CB
CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 6A63CE63
AccurateRip signature : 49C5B93E
->Accurately ripped! (confidence 26)
Statistics
Read error : 0
Skipped (treated as error) : 0
Edge jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
Atom jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0

Track 09
CRC32 hash : EA7DEBA5
CRC32 hash (skip zero) : D319FC09
AccurateRip signature : A907A9AE
->Accurately ripped! (confidence 26)
Statistics
Read error : 0
Skipped (treated as error) : 0
Edge jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
Atom jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0

Track 10
CRC32 hash : 235D169F
CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 2AF2EEEA
AccurateRip signature : 058E2C0D
->Accurately ripped! (confidence 27)
Statistics
Read error : 0
Skipped (treated as error) : 0
Edge jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
Atom jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0

Track 11
CRC32 hash : DB6328F6
CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 3379536F
AccurateRip signature : E06C7EDA
->Accurately ripped! (confidence 27)
Statistics
Read error : 0
Skipped (treated as error) : 0
Edge jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
Atom jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0

Track 12
CRC32 hash : B9214E7D
CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 45BD2AAC
AccurateRip signature : A56B787B
->Accurately ripped! (confidence 26)
Statistics
Read error : 0
Skipped (treated as error) : 0
Edge jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
Atom jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0

Track 13
CRC32 hash : 8806A2C3
CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 4EB456D6
AccurateRip signature : 39F524B9
->Accurately ripped! (confidence 26)
Statistics
Read error : 0
Skipped (treated as error) : 0
Edge jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
Atom jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0

Track 14
CRC32 hash : 31599532
CRC32 hash (skip zero) : EA0D715E
AccurateRip signature : 5A15CF24
->Accurately ripped! (confidence 26)
Statistics
Read error : 0
Skipped (treated as error) : 0
Edge jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
Atom jitter error (maybe fixed) : 0
Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0

No errors occurred

End of status r


I choose to save as single file(+cue) with album art work embedded in the FLAC file. XLD produces an external cue sheet and also embeds the cue sheet into the FLAC file.



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- macman4hire   Which CD DAE software is the most accurate for Mac OS X?   Sep 1 2008, 22:45
- - Pepzhez   I have spent a lot of time in other forums rigorou...   Sep 2 2008, 06:09
- - Pepzhez   I failed to answer the main question, didn't I...   Sep 2 2008, 06:48
- - macman4hire   Thank you for your answers Pepzhez. The drives I ...   Sep 2 2008, 07:45
- - Tyashki   Um, does any Mac use those? Also, is there a way ...   Sep 2 2008, 10:05
|- - tim.lance   QUOTE (Tyashki @ Sep 2 2008, 04:05) Um, d...   Sep 2 2008, 11:29
|- - Tyashki   QUOTE (tim.lance @ Sep 2 2008, 20:29) QUO...   Sep 3 2008, 13:49
|- - tim.lance   Sorry, no help here and I've checked three dif...   Sep 3 2008, 16:06
- - spoon   Matshita is such an unfortunate name here in the w...   Sep 2 2008, 13:00
- - macman4hire   I ripped this CD and XLD produce this log report p...   Sep 3 2008, 02:37
|- - tim.lance   To have more faith in the rip you might want to ch...   Sep 3 2008, 03:26
- - greynol   For tracks that AR verifies, T&C is a complete...   Sep 3 2008, 03:34
|- - tim.lance   QUOTE (greynol @ Sep 2 2008, 21:34) For t...   Sep 3 2008, 03:43
- - greynol   In EAC my advice is to copy, check AR and then tes...   Sep 3 2008, 03:53
|- - tim.lance   QUOTE (greynol @ Sep 2 2008, 21:53) In EA...   Sep 3 2008, 03:58
- - greynol   I'm interested in what is displayed in the GUI...   Sep 3 2008, 04:01
|- - tim.lance   QUOTE (greynol @ Sep 2 2008, 22:01) I...   Sep 3 2008, 11:24
- - Pepzhez   The only thing displayed in the GUI is a progress ...   Sep 3 2008, 05:01
- - macman4hire   How do you check to see if a CD is in the Accurate...   Sep 3 2008, 06:45
|- - Pepzhez   QUOTE (macman4hire @ Sep 2 2008, 21:45) H...   Sep 3 2008, 07:28
- - spoon   EAC & dBpoweramp will detect if the CD is in A...   Sep 3 2008, 10:49
- - macman4hire   Today XLD added an additional feature under the T...   Sep 3 2008, 21:21
|- - Kees de Visser   This thread made me curious, so I tried to downloa...   Sep 4 2008, 06:26
- - macman4hire   Click on this link Down Load XLD to down load XLD....   Sep 4 2008, 06:37
|- - Kees de Visser   That link works fine and so does XLD's built-i...   Sep 4 2008, 11:34
|- - tim.lance   QUOTE (Kees de Visser @ Sep 4 2008, 05:34...   Sep 4 2008, 14:04
- - macman4hire   I have created a comparison for three CD rippers t...   Sep 4 2008, 21:37
|- - knucklehead   QUOTE (macman4hire @ Sep 4 2008, 12:37) I...   Sep 4 2008, 23:46
||- - macman4hire   QUOTE (knucklehead @ Sep 4 2008, 16:46) Q...   Sep 5 2008, 22:15
||- - macman4hire   QUOTE (knucklehead @ Sep 4 2008, 16:46) Q...   Sep 13 2008, 00:15
|- - gloog   QUOTE (macman4hire @ Sep 4 2008, 21:37) I...   Jan 2 2009, 19:39
- - macman4hire   Today XLD added a new feature to recognize if a CD...   Sep 4 2008, 23:36
- - macman4hire   Just an update on Mac DAE. Today sbooth the devel...   Sep 5 2008, 21:46
- - macman4hire   Their seems to be some disagreement if the disable...   Sep 5 2008, 22:34
- - knucklehead   QUOTE (macman4hire @ Sep 1 2008, 13:45) 4...   Sep 6 2008, 17:16
|- - ffooky   QUOTE (knucklehead @ Sep 6 2008, 17:16) H...   Sep 6 2008, 17:39
|- - Pepzhez   QUOTE (knucklehead @ Sep 6 2008, 08:16) H...   Sep 6 2008, 23:27
|- - ffooky   QUOTE (Pepzhez @ Sep 6 2008, 23:27) You d...   Sep 6 2008, 23:37
|- - tim.lance   QUOTE (ffooky @ Sep 6 2008, 17:37) QUOTE ...   Sep 6 2008, 23:44
||- - ffooky   QUOTE (tim.lance @ Sep 6 2008, 23:44) Yep...   Sep 7 2008, 00:03
||- - macman4hire   QUOTE (ffooky @ Sep 6 2008, 17:03) QUOTE ...   Sep 7 2008, 00:14
||- - Pepzhez   QUOTE (macman4hire @ Sep 6 2008, 15:14) Q...   Sep 7 2008, 03:57
|- - Pepzhez   QUOTE (ffooky @ Sep 6 2008, 14:37) QUOTE ...   Sep 7 2008, 00:04
|- - knucklehead   QUOTE (Pepzhez @ Sep 6 2008, 15:04) QUOTE...   Sep 7 2008, 01:30
- - greynol   QUOTE (knucklehead @ Sep 6 2008, 09:16) H...   Sep 6 2008, 17:51
|- - knucklehead   Time for new glasses... The 8's were hiding i...   Sep 6 2008, 18:10
- - macman4hire   XLD updated via automatic update today with some i...   Sep 7 2008, 00:03
- - tim.lance   No sh*t. I have never seen such user driven (or an...   Sep 7 2008, 00:11
|- - Pepzhez   QUOTE (tim.lance @ Sep 6 2008, 15:11) Now...   Sep 7 2008, 01:17
- - greynol   Did we determine if the "Only when the track...   Sep 7 2008, 00:50
|- - Pepzhez   QUOTE (greynol @ Sep 6 2008, 15:50) Did w...   Sep 7 2008, 01:04
|- - ffooky   Is it realistically possible for different pressin...   Sep 7 2008, 01:08
- - macman4hire   QUOTE (Pepzhez @ Sep 6 2008, 20:57) I not...   Sep 7 2008, 04:37
- - jhart71   I'm new to XLD - just downloaded and started l...   Sep 13 2008, 14:03
|- - Pepzhez   QUOTE (jhart71 @ Sep 13 2008, 05:03) My q...   Sep 13 2008, 14:22
- - jhart71   I just ripped the same track twice - once with the...   Sep 13 2008, 15:45
- - tim.lance   QUOTE (jhart71 @ Sep 13 2008, 09:45) I ju...   Sep 13 2008, 15:52
- - jhart71   QUOTE (tim.lance @ Sep 13 2008, 09:52) QU...   Sep 13 2008, 16:07
- - tim.lance   QUOTE (jhart71 @ Sep 13 2008, 10:07) You...   Sep 13 2008, 16:25


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