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in_mad v2 Winamp MAD MP3 input plugin
MoSPDude
post Jan 12 2008, 12:44
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Hi, this is a long awaited (although not fully finished) conversion and improvement of my previous updated in_mad plug-in.

The notable new features/fixes (that I can remember from notes) include,
* Re-written/ported to C++ to 'enable' better WA5 compatibility
* Fully Unicode GUI
* Icecast mp3 streaming fixed
* WA5 Global Configuration supported
* Improved basic and advanced editing
* Slightly improved ID3v2.3 support
* 32 bit output uses full internal 28 bit representation
* Advanced-style Basic formatting for WA2
* Non-Unicode backward compatible for WA2 (not fully tested)
* Multi-lingual dialogs (once someone translates!)
* Re-designed APE tag support including Unicode

The playback and EQ backend is mostly the same except ported through to C++ and into a class structure.
However some things are incomplete,
* New Binary editor disabled
* EQU2 tag editing and writing disabled

The latest DLL can be downloaded from http://www.zen23652.zen.co.uk/in_mad_2b.zip.
Source code is now separate from http://www.zen23652.zen.co.uk/in_mad_2b_src.zip

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Yashu
post Mar 31 2008, 00:41
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I am somewhat new here, but I was wondering, I have been following the development from the first in_mad mod and now this second version, and my question is, has anyone any link to where testing has been done on the noise shaping and dithering options?

I don't want to ask "what sounds better", I am curious if any serious ABX testing has been done on this plugin, in particular, not against other decoders, but the various options of just this one, perhaps with mpg123, or some other (well documented) one as a control.

I am not really equipped to do the tests myself, but it would be interesting to see the results of noise shaping vs. non, and also the three dither options, and then combinations of them both. I suppose the results could be put on a spreadsheet, and if enough people participated, it would be a really cool experiment.

I don't know if this has been addressed anywhere else, and I am not trying to find out what is "better" per se, but it would be an interesting experiment and I have been wanting to know ever since those options became part of the plugin. Everywhere I have gone to look for information, mostly people are only talking about tagging or replaygain, basically only one mention of some testing done with someone's family, but nothing more than that.

EDIT: Application to mp3 would be interesting, especially if several bitrates are tested. It would be interesting to see if dithering would have an audible effect, and if so, would it be less or more depending on the encoded bitrate. If I were to venture a guess, I would say the noise shaping would not be noticed either way (doesn't LAME employ an LP filter? If the noise shaping algorithm uses freq. above the LP filter, would that make things worse?), but if the dither *was* audible, the preference would be towards triangular weighting. That is my guess. I have toyed with the settings with V0 and 320k LAME, and I can tell you my preference, but that would be against the TOS?

Has this been discussed somewhere else, and if not, what test tones/sounds do you guys use to test?

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- MoSPDude   in_mad v2 Winamp MAD MP3 input plugin   Jan 12 2008, 12:44
- - j7n   This version is great, most importantly special ch...   Jan 12 2008, 22:47
- - MoSPDude   As a note, I've only tested this on Windows XP...   Jan 13 2008, 00:00
|- - Maggi   QUOTE (MoSPDude @ Jan 13 2008, 01:00) If ...   Jan 14 2008, 16:21
|- - MoSPDude   OK, that one bug already! I'm uploading...   Jan 14 2008, 18:08
||- - Maggi   QUOTE (MoSPDude @ Jan 14 2008, 19:08) OK,...   Jan 15 2008, 10:41
|- - j7n   I tried to run Winamp 5.35 under Win98. UTF charac...   Jan 14 2008, 18:10
- - Kjn_Wds   Great work, as usual : ) !   Jan 14 2008, 16:02
- - MoSPDude   True, I was hoping Windows 98 wouldn't have a ...   Jan 14 2008, 18:21
- - MoSPDude   I just checked to see if Unicows was linked with t...   Jan 15 2008, 00:46
- - BtEO   Winamp 5.51 on Windows XP. The new version of thi...   Jan 16 2008, 05:07
- - MoSPDude   I've uploaded a fix for the tag reading proble...   Jan 16 2008, 08:55
- - Domin   Would there be a way to fix it so when streaming m...   Jan 16 2008, 22:13
- - MoSPDude   Hi Domin, in what way does it crash when the strea...   Jan 17 2008, 00:46
|- - Domin   QUOTE (MoSPDude @ Jan 17 2008, 00:46) Hi ...   Feb 17 2008, 14:55
- - kerimcem   turkish character I,İ,Ş,Ğ ID3V2 no...   Jan 18 2008, 13:12
- - MoSPDude   I've uploaded another update, this adds suppor...   Jan 22 2008, 20:08
|- - j7n   The latest in_mad now fails to load under Win98. I...   Jan 22 2008, 21:29
|- - robert   QUOTE (j7n @ Jan 22 2008, 21:29) The late...   Jan 22 2008, 22:08
- - MoSPDude   Under my virtual machine on WA 5.35 it works well....   Jan 22 2008, 21:51
|- - [JAZ]   QUOTE (MoSPDude @ Jan 22 2008, 22:51) EDI...   Jan 22 2008, 22:06
- - zipr   Where can I find out exactly what this plugin is s...   Jan 25 2008, 16:54
- - MoSPDude   This plug-in is an alternative mp3 decoder plug-in...   Jan 25 2008, 18:11
|- - benski   QUOTE Where can I find out exactly what this plugi...   Jan 25 2008, 18:40
|- - lvqcl   QUOTE (benski @ Jan 25 2008, 20:40) The a...   Jan 27 2008, 14:50
- - MoSPDude   Its nice for the latest Winamp versions to have th...   Jan 26 2008, 11:40
|- - j7n   QUOTE (MoSPDude @ Jan 26 2008, 12:40) @j7...   Jan 29 2008, 20:51
- - nemoW   Thanks for Unicode file/pathname support![hr] ...   Jan 27 2008, 21:30
- - nonreality   I set it up in Mediamonkey and it seems to work fi...   Jan 30 2008, 04:02
- - Sylph   Hey, MoSPDude, thank you so much for the plugin...   Feb 1 2008, 18:13
- - MoSPDude   Hey, I've uploaded an update to fix the Replay...   Feb 1 2008, 19:13
|- - Sylph   QUOTE (MoSPDude @ Feb 1 2008, 19:13) Hey,...   Feb 1 2008, 19:20
- - MoSPDude   The first link on the main page contains the lates...   Feb 1 2008, 19:40
|- - Sylph   QUOTE (MoSPDude @ Feb 1 2008, 19:40) The ...   Feb 1 2008, 20:07
- - _Raziel-BG   It acts kinda strange here. On some MP3s it shows ...   Feb 3 2008, 05:54
- - Orochi7777   MoSPDude I love what you have done with this plugi...   Feb 7 2008, 05:58
- - -sanb-   Orochi7777 QUOTE I noticed that In_mad stores its ...   Feb 7 2008, 18:22
- - BSOD2600   Has anyone else noticed 'stuttering' with ...   Feb 9 2008, 23:47
- - Trainwreck56   QUOTE (BSOD2600 @ Feb 10 2008, 09:47) Has...   Feb 10 2008, 02:13
- - CromagDK   Hey there im wonderering a bit, when i play a st...   Feb 11 2008, 13:55
- - MoSPDude   I'm hoping to get chance to have a play this c...   Feb 12 2008, 11:22
|- - Trainwreck56   QUOTE (MoSPDude @ Feb 12 2008, 21:22) @BS...   Feb 12 2008, 13:50
|- - BSOD2600   QUOTE (MoSPDude @ Feb 12 2008, 03:22) @BS...   Feb 12 2008, 23:33
|- - _Raziel-BG   QUOTE (MoSPDude @ Feb 12 2008, 11:22) @_R...   Mar 13 2008, 00:11
- - -sanb-   MoSPDude I'm using AIMP player for listening m...   Feb 12 2008, 15:39
- - Orochi7777   QUOTE I'll look into a portable configuation, ...   Feb 12 2008, 19:27
- - Cybermutant   Like a previous poster, I'm also using a large...   Feb 15 2008, 19:29
- - MoSPDude   Hi, the 0.15.1 (beta) is correct - its an old name...   Feb 15 2008, 23:55
- - gameplaya15143   I figured out that the unicode support option has ...   Feb 16 2008, 19:06
- - MoSPDude   Hi folks, I've put up another update - this v...   Mar 3 2008, 20:57
- - Orochi7777   MoSPDude you are my HERO. Thank you very much f...   Mar 3 2008, 21:07
- - Emre   @MoSPDude did you drop FPM_64BIT compile switch f...   Mar 3 2008, 23:52
- - -sanb-   MoSPDude BIG THANKS!!! MY MAN!...   Mar 4 2008, 00:08
- - MoSPDude   Hi Emre, I've dropped back to FPM_INTEL (as in...   Mar 4 2008, 09:19
|- - Emre   QUOTE (MoSPDude @ Mar 4 2008, 10:19) Hi E...   Mar 5 2008, 04:03
|- - j7n   Hi, MoSPDude. The last version (with ini-file) in...   Mar 5 2008, 13:14
|- - Emre   QUOTE (j7n @ Mar 5 2008, 14:14) ...interr...   Mar 6 2008, 19:19
|- - j7n   I can confirm that disabling EQ solves the problem...   Mar 6 2008, 21:22
- - BSOD2600   1) I'm still getting occasional short pauses i...   Mar 9 2008, 07:18
- - -sanb-   BSOD2600 Try to delete this section QUOTE HKEY_USE...   Mar 9 2008, 08:05
|- - BSOD2600   QUOTE (-sanb- @ Mar 9 2008, 00...   Mar 9 2008, 10:24
|- - k.eight.a   QUOTE (BSOD2600 @ Mar 9 2008, 10:24) QUOT...   Mar 9 2008, 16:58
- - MoSPDude   Hi guys, Sorry for the confusion of it all, I rea...   Mar 10 2008, 00:20
|- - BSOD2600   QUOTE (MoSPDude @ Mar 9 2008, 16:20) The ...   Mar 10 2008, 02:38
- - John Clement   Are there any plans to add the unsynced Lyrics tag...   Mar 25 2008, 19:53
- - Yashu   I am somewhat new here, but I was wondering, I hav...   Mar 31 2008, 00:41
- - Sylph   When can we expect an update?   Apr 23 2008, 14:16
- - Slipstreem   I'm currently running version 0.15.1b publishe...   Apr 26 2008, 03:15
- - BSOD2600   QUOTE (Slipstreem @ Apr 25 2008, 19:15) I...   Apr 26 2008, 19:11
- - SkripT2   Thanks a lot @MoSPDude for this new version. I hav...   May 6 2008, 23:18
- - BSOD2600   This yet another dead mp3 project?   Jul 21 2008, 09:09
- - Sylph   I wonder, too...   Jul 21 2008, 10:20
- - MoSPDude   Hi guys, I think it's safe to say that for th...   Jul 24 2008, 20:22
- - lvqcl   MoSPDude, in_mad adds tags in ISO 8859 encoding. N...   Jul 24 2008, 22:48
- - Mits2008   I have been lurking in this forum for years, and I...   Sep 15 2008, 15:42
|- - Sylph   QUOTE (Mits2008 @ Sep 15 2008, 16:42) Thi...   Oct 1 2008, 14:44
|- - shakey_snake   QUOTE (Mits2008 @ Sep 15 2008, 10:42) My ...   Oct 1 2008, 16:04
|- - Karolinger   QUOTE (Mits2008 @ Sep 15 2008, 10:42) Tha...   Oct 4 2008, 01:25
- - deinlandel   Version from Winamp site has serious issues with R...   Oct 3 2008, 07:18


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